Amber Guyger sentencing

Nothing. It is as it ever was, we have always been an incarceral state. Only recently have we begun to roll back the 90’s crime bill.

I can’t imagine an America where she doesn’t get some form of punishment.

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No, it wasn’t. It was Bothams apartment.

???

Are we debating the same case? Maybe now your comment to me makes sense. You thought it was her apartment.

But you shot from the hip. It wasn’t her apartment.

Apologies are in order.

In her mind it was.

You of all people don’t think that means anything, do you?

It means everything. You think she entered the wrong apartment intentionally?

Just as a side note - I see a lot of people arguing about manslaughter - which does not fit the fact pattern of this case. She was charged with murder, and rightfully so - she did not accidentally pull the trigger. She intended to kill Mr. Jean.

The fact that she her reason for intending to kill Mr. Jean was due to a mistake of fact does not mitigate the crime to manslaughter.

Yes, the apartment number was different. There was a bright red floor mat in front of Jeans apartment door… Amber did not have one at all.

Upon opening the door… at the entryway… there were different picture hung up and decor.

She didn’t care to confirm… she shot first and asked questions later

Mmmmmmm

Exactly she herself admitted that the use of force was intentional and where she shot him was intentional.

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She entered the wrong apartment intentionally?

No, but entering the apartment wasn’t the actus reas that killed Mr. Jean.

In my opinion, yes. Different floor, different apartment number, different decor.

But that’s not what got her the murder charge.

I’m more disturbed by the fact he was too dumb to avoid a train than I am the lawsuit.

Mistake? I think they call it negligence. People are held responsible for that in some cases. If I pick up a gun thinking it’s unloaded and kill someone, that’s a mistake too. But anyone can see where I was negligent.

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It was the key mistake in the sequence.

Sure. And if Texas recognized “imperfect” self-defense, then she could use that as a defense to mitigate her punishment.

But it doesn’t fit the elements of manslaughter.

Despite her mistake of fact, she intentionally and knowingly killed him. That’s what matters.

The entire circumstance matters.

The sentence fits so calling it 3rd degree murder with situational misplaced intent is fine with me.