A dose of Reality-More people are killed with blunt objects than All Types of Rifles Combined

[WuWei]

@FloridaYankee

@WuWei

@FloridaYankee

Retarded question. Mass killings are far more traumatizing to the public at large.

Interesting statement. “Traumatizing”. Why do you think that is?

I should think that would be self evident. For example: I was twenty minutes away from the Sandy Hook massacre. All three of our daughters played sports on school fields right there in the town and they were still of school age when it happened. We could have easily been there, and that ain’t no hype. We knew kids, coaches and teachers in their system.

That’s some damn hard ■■■■ to explain to your daughters. It’s not just friends and family that are effected by travesties like that, there are thousands of others with varying levels of connections to it, some direct, some less so. That hit our family hard, and to say it was traumatic does not feel like an overstatement.

Valid points all, in your personal case. That kind of proximity is not usually the case. How about Las Vegas? Were you just as traumatized?

And it seems we move on relatively quickly and even more so if the event not what we expect it to be. For example, the type of weapon used.

We will keep being traumatized by an event with an “assault rifle” long after we forget one with a pistol or something else. Or a lower body count. Or one in which a citizen made a difference.

I understand your feelings about Sandy Hook.

[WuWei]

@SixFoot

The red flag laws are no different than being put on a terrorist watch list.

I tend to agree and it will be hard to convince me otherwise. It’s prior restraint.

[WuWei]

@SixFoot

Prior trauma as a collective species, IMO.

I can’t agree with that. You know as well as I do the vast majority of the species has never and will never be personally affected by these event and are basing their perception of them on media driven images.

[WuWei]

@FloridaYankee

@SixFoot

OK? Give it time

Fair enough. I want it done right, it needs that.

I believe it impossible. They are incompatible concepts.

[SixFoot]

Apologies for bringing up something so far off topic. I just feel like the prior extinction events may be part of why people naturally dream of things trying to kill them even at an age where nothing adverse has happened yet.

[Bodecea]

@PurpnGold

@WildRose

You seem to think you’re making some sort of point here. What is it?

That there are 3293 gun deaths that are unidentifiable. Even if 10% of those where rifles… that would push it higher than clubbing and fists

Shhhhhhhhhhh!

[WuWei]

@SixFoot

Apologies for bringing up something so far off topic. I just feel like the prior extinction events may be part of why people naturally dream of things trying to kill them even at an age where nothing adverse has happened yet.

It’s not off topic at all. You could very well be right. The drive to survive is very strong.

[WuWei]

How many times have we found out after the fact that the perpetrator was known to police prior to the final event?

And we think making more people known to police is going to help … how? The police blame laws (rights).

How much power are we willing to give police to “save” us?

[Bodecea]

@NuffSaid

Good stat.

How many mass killings happened when someone used a blunt object?

Stop asking awkward questions.

[gooddad409]

@DMK

I think the point is people are going to find a way to kill others because they are mentally ill or are terrorists. The Boston Bombers didn’t use guns, terrorists strap bombs to themselves. London is rife with stabbings to the point knives are banned.

Where does it end? By taking guns away from legal, sane gun owners who have the absolute right to protect their personhood, home and families? Because that seems to be the agenda for some and and growing in popularity.

Why is it we had kids back 20 years ago who could handle guns and no gun violence like we see today? Heck, we used to have rednecks at our highschool with a gun mounted in the back window of their trucks.

What has changed between then and now? IMO, a lot has to do with the breakdown of the family and support for families to stay together. Kids need discipline and guidance and they are not getting it. They are not being equipped to mentally deal with the real world or are being put on meds they probably don’t need to be taking. Every kid who was rambunctious in class was labeled ADHD… But, hey. No P.E. anymore to let kids blow off steam as they need to do.

My point being we are not going to solve this problem without understanding the cause of it to begin with. I’m sure many good people are working on solving that puzzle.

But, gun control is just a bandaid to make people feel better. If our politicians really cared about gun control they’d crack down on Chicago, but mums the word there along with gangs and the criminal element that commits most of the crimes.

Great points. I think the break down of the family is a substantial part of the problem as well.

Also good points about the way the politicians ignore places like Chicago and all the gang shootings there.

[SixFoot]

Known history of violent tendencies.

"Anti-"psychotic medications.

Racist tendencies.

[ImRightYoureWrong]

Well then I guess we shouldn’t worry about illegal immigrants murdering people either

[Jezcoe]

@Sknyluv

Are we trying to argue that “blunt objects” are better at killing things than guns?

That would seem that someone wouldn’t need to carry a gun for protection.

A hammer will do.

Much more lethal.

[WuWei]

@Jezcoe

@Sknyluv

Are we trying to argue that “blunt objects” are better at killing things than guns?

That would seem that someone wouldn’t need to carry a gun for protection.

A hammer will do.

Much more lethal.

You don’t seem to grasp the concept of “winning”.

[SixFoot]

Some folks appear to think that a fair fight is fair.

[WuWei]

@SixFoot

Some folks appear to think that a fair fight is fair.

Those folks have never been in a fight. Of course they will claim they grew up in 8 Mile.

[Bodecea]

@SixFoot

It’s not about the victims, it’s about what the left can do to help make those dead bodies useful to their cause.

As opposed to denying that little children were even killed, as per Alex Jones?

[SixFoot]

Understandable. They probably think biting and eye gouging are somehow off-limits too.

I pray they never find themselves on the defensive.

[SixFoot]

Stop watching Alex Jones, you’ll turn into a… never mind. lol

[WuWei]

@SixFoot

Understandable. They probably think biting and eye gouging are somehow off-limits too.

I pray they never find themselves on the defensive.

As do I, the shock alone might kill them.