2020 Election Fraud Thread (Part 1)

Ok well it appears we have answered @Smyrna’s questions on this matter, then…:sunglasses:

Can HE handle the truth?

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Agreed. Along with “This is what we’re going to do about it”.

well this explains quite a bit about Trumps “truly great legal team”

Jenna Ellis, the attorney from Colorado representing President Donald Trump in his bid to overturn his 2020 election loss, was fired from her job as a Weld County prosecutor in 2013 for making mistakes on cases, records obtained by The Colorado Sun show.

Ellis “failed to meet the employer’s expectations” and “made mistakes on cases the employer believes she should not have made,” according to a document from the Colorado Department of Labor and Employment.

Another record says Ellis, who held the title deputy district attorney at the Weld County District Attorney’s Office, was fired for “unsatisfactory performance.”

“The employer noted some cases were being processed that did not adhere to the Victim Rights Act,” the state labor department document says. “… There is the appearance in case documentation the claimant did not follow proper protocol for some of the cases she handled.”

Trump is horrible as a character judge and at team building.

Has your team testified under oath about these findings. Until real proof is presented they are just unfounded allegations.

Allan

Altair just made those numbers up to show an example of what he is looking for. Actual numbers to be filled in.

He will keep going back to his woefully discredited sources. Some people never learn, even don’t want to learn, and that is why Hoft and Jones keep raking in the dough.

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I am SHOCKED that a machine could fail due to human error.

Why did this car allow me to crash? Why did my computer misspell a word?

Great post.

The complaint does not allege fraud was committed. It does state that the system was vulnerable to fraud. Specifically, mail in voting, but the complaint does not allege fraud occurred. At what point in the complaint does the Plaintiff claim there was intent? That seems to be a glaring omission from a key element of fraud.

When public officers engage in election fraud to get their candidate elected, they are subject to prosecution. Of course, when dishonorable people are elected to office who control the Attorney Generals office, don’t expect prosecutions to happen and fair elections to occur.

JWK

They are neither “liberal”, “progressive” nor are they Republican or Democrat Leaders. They are notoriously evil Socialist Revolutionaries and Globalists who intend to use government force to steal and then enjoy the property which labor, business and investors have worked to create.

As I correctly pointed out, the Texas BILL OF COMPLAINT covers some of the outright fraud engaged in by Pennsylvania’s public officers.

I suggest you brush up on what fraud entails which has a very broad meaning.

Election fraud in federal elections is a federal question and can involve a “deprivation of rights under color of law”.

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Those interested in the connection between a “deprivation of rights under color of law” and the 2020 federal election see: State Action and “Under Color” of State Law

For example:

In United States v. Classic (1941), the federal government prosecuted county election officials under § 242 for depriving African-American voters of the right to vote by failing to count their votes, altering ballots to show votes for different candidates, and falsely certifying election results— all contrary to the officials’ state-law obligations to accurately count votes and properly certify the results. The officials’ conduct violated the voters’ federal constitutional rights to be free from race discrimination in voting, but also violated state election law. A 4–3 majority held that the federal prosecution could proceed. The election officials acted under color of state law because “[m]isuse of power, possessed by virtue of state law and made possible only because the wrongdoer is clothed with the authority of state law, is action taken ‘under color’ of state law.” Public officials acted under color of state law whenever their conduct deprived an individual of her constitutional rights, even when officials did so in disregard of express legal obligations in the course of performing their state duties.*

Also see Federal Prosecution of Election Offenses e.g.:Page 37

  1. Deprivation of Rights under Color of Law: 18 U.S.C. § 242

Section 242, also enacted as a post-Civil War statute, makes it unlawful for anyone acting under color of law, statute, ordinance, regulation, or custom to willfully deprive a person of any right, privilege, or immunity secured or protected by the Constitution or laws of the United States. Violations are one-year misdemeanors unless bodily injury occurs, in which case the penalty is ten years, unless death results, in which case the penalty is imprisonment for any term of years or for life, or a sentence of death. Prosecutions under Section 242 need not show the existence of a conspiracy. However, the defendants must have acted illegally “under color of law,” i.e., the case must involve a public scheme, as discussed above. This element does not require that the defendant be a de jure officer or a government official; it is sufficient if he or she jointly acted with state agents in committing the offense, United States v. Price, 383 U.S. 787 (1966), or if his or her actions were made possible by the fact that they were clothed with the authority of state law, Williams v. United States, 341 U.S. 97 (1951); United States v. Classic, 313 U.S. 299 (1941). Because a Section 242 violation can be a substantive offense for election fraud conspiracies prosecutable under Section 241, the cases cited in the discussion of Section 241 that involve public schemes (i.e., those involving misconduct under color of law) apply to Section 242.

JWK

“Until you realize how easy it is for your mind to be manipulated, you remain the puppet of someone else’s game.” ― Evita Ochel

The Attorney General is appointed by Trump.

If fraud is shown I am sure the AG will file charges or at minimum impanel a grand jury.

The problem you have convincing me is the incredible scale of the corruption.

State legislatures (most all GOP)
State govenors (incl GOP)
State courts (up to supreme)
Federal courts (up to the supreme)
The Attorney General (state and federal)

I get it that sometime we have corrupt officials, but at this scale the election fraud is no longer even the story.

Or maybe these election rules issues might lean more toward grey legal areas, nasty politics and differences of opinion than outright criminal fraud.

We’ll have to see what the grand jury thinks. Our system grants them the power of discernment here.

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So? Stop deflecting. Your tricks are old and tired.

JWK

They are neither “liberal”, “progressive” nor are they Republican or Democrat Leaders. They are notoriously evil Socialist Revolutionaries and Globalists who intend to use government force to steal and then enjoy the property which labor, business and investors have worked to create.

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How is that a deflection?! You said dishonorable people were elected to that position, but this is a position controlled by the president and not elected.

The scale of the criminal conspiracy is a good indicator of its unlikeliness.

Perspective. That is the old trick I am using.

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Ha! The only differences between this guy and our resident fraudsters is means and motivation.

I’ve heard of this guy before, he was saying he had proof of vote harvesting and had been making outlandish fraud claims for awhile now. Another conspiracy casualty.

You participate in a thread dedicated to election fraud, but then you avoid discussing election fraud.

Amazing. Simply amazing.

:roll_eyes:

JWK

We need to start call these scoundrels what they really are! They are not “Democrats”, “Republicans”, “progressives”, or “liberal leaders”. They are radical, Cuban style, socialist revolutionaries, supported and defended by a Fifth Column Media and Yellow Journalists.

Fraud