2020 Election Fraud Thread (Part 1)

[biggestal99]

@JayJay

Why not?

And what is the fascination with believing that voting at a polling station is somehow “more noble” than voting in one’s own home?

76% of New Jersey voters who voted by mail. Record voter turnout. More votes for both republicans and democrats.

What wrong with turning out registered voters to cast ballots?

Allan

[sikofit]

Florida changed their voting procedures for this election. Why aren’t they named in the lawsuit?

[Call_me_Ishmael]

@sikofit

@Konssurvative1

So a pandemic isn’t an actual and verified reason for mail in ballots?

Nah .The pandemic has only killed 400,000 Americans in 9 months. Child’s play

You© people were counting on using that as an excuse to disenfranchise legitimate voters. “Never let a crisis go to waste” ? Or something like that.

[sikofit]

@Call_me_Ishmael

@sikofit

@Konssurvative1

So a pandemic isn’t an actual and verified reason for mail in ballots?

Nah .The pandemic has only killed 400,000 Americans in 9 months. Child’s play

You© people were counting on using that as an excuse to disenfranchise legitimate voters. “Never let a crisis go to waste” ? Or something like that.

Or hear me out. The worst pandemic in over 100 years is actually a legislate reason to limit personal contact if it can be avoided. Luckily we have this thing called mail-in voting that states like Utah have proved is a safe and effective way to vote

[Camp]

Not up to me.

Accepting ballots without a post mark would be egregious to most.

I want Biden to serve this term. It will be better to see the opposite of Trump in action and have Trump able to fix it again.

[JayJay]

@Call_me_Ishmael

@sikofit

@Konssurvative1

So a pandemic isn’t an actual and verified reason for mail in ballots?

Nah .The pandemic has only killed 400,000 Americans in 9 months. Child’s play

You© people were counting on using that as an excuse to disenfranchise legitimate voters. “Never let a crisis go to waste” ? Or something like that.

Disenfranchise what legitimate voters?

[biggestal99]

@sikofit

Florida changed their voting procedures for this election. Why aren’t they named in the lawsuit?

Most states changed the procedures for this election.

Even Texas did.

Gov. Greg Abbott extends early voting for November election by six days,...

Allan

[Konssurvative1]

I will disagree here. One election is not worth the life of anyone. I personally wanted to be around for the next election too. But I live in a small town and was able to vote in person without much exposure. Those who could not did not need to have their lives diminished because people have some over exaggerated sense of citizenship.

[sikofit]

@biggestal99

@sikofit

Florida changed their voting procedures for this election. Why aren’t they named in the lawsuit?

Most states changed the procedures for this election.

Even Texas did.

https://www.texastribune.org/2020/07/27/texas-greg-abbott-early-voting-november/

Allan

Ken Paxton isn’t the sharpest tool in the shed is he? Who in the hell is going to hire that idiot after a faceplant of historical proportion. (assuming he gets his parden and doesn’t end up in jail of course)

[Konssurvative1]

Load of CRAP. and I think you know it. How do you figure anyone got disenfranchised? If anything more people who would normally vote were able to vote?

[Borgia_dude]

@JayJay

@Call_me_Ishmael

@Konssurvative1

So a pandemic isn’t an actual and verified reason for mail in ballots?

No. Not for the most important act of citizenship.

Why not?

And what is the fascination with believing that voting at a polling station is somehow “more noble” than voting in one’s own home?

I could make an argument that voting at home and then mailing the ballot in requires more civic engagement because one can sit and research the candidates and take time and effort to do so, instead of being vaguely worried that one has to be done with it because other people are waiting to vote.

There is zero logic to the idea that people who vote in person are taking their civic duty more seriously than those who vote mail in.

It’s an silly and vacuous argument.

I agree 100%. I predict this whole argument will be a moot point within 30 years or so as we adopt online voting. I doubt the younger generation who are steeped in digital tech will object as they come to power in 30 years. They will likely push it.

[Borgia_dude]

@Call_me_Ishmael

@sikofit

@Konssurvative1

So a pandemic isn’t an actual and verified reason for mail in ballots?

Nah .The pandemic has only killed 400,000 Americans in 9 months. Child’s play

You© people were counting on using that as an excuse to disenfranchise legitimate voters. “Never let a crisis go to waste” ? Or something like that.

Legitimate voters have not been disenfranchised. Their vote still counts.

[sikofit]

@Konssurvative1

Load of CRAP. and I think you know it. How do you figure anyone got disenfranchised? If anything more people who would normally vote were able to vote?

For this conversation the definition of disenfranchised has been changed to… " the wrong people voted"

[Konssurvative1]

I think maybe we the several other states not involved in the texas lawsuit, should now turn around and sue Texas for changing it’s laws to allow for more voting. I mean, in my pre election research I had Biden winning Texas. We were cheated!!!

[Borgia_dude]

@sikofit

@Call_me_Ishmael

China

No. Pennsylvania thought it was a legitimate reason. Texas has no say in what is considered legitimate except for in Texas

Each local area is special and only locals know best.

[NickN]

@komobu

@komobu

I would rather Biden win and our election procedures get strengthened, than Trump win and nothing happen

This statement does not mean Biden has to do anything. If the congress and the states look at the current procedures and strengthens them, I will be happier than Trump getting back in and nothing happening.

To persist here, without a hint of any specific examples shows how this is not a now thing anytime soon.

Let’s not mask the perception issue here either.

The Dems don’t really want to work hard and earn people’s vote anymore.

Just look at how Biden acted “you ain’t black if you vote for Trump.”

[NickN]

@Borgia_dude

I doubt the younger generation who are steeped in digital tech will object as they come to power in 30 years.

Mitigate voter fraud is the concern. Not ease or convenience. Look at a much more liberal country in Canada who to this day continues to maintain paper for ballot back up-verification.

[Sknyluv]

@Call_me_Ishmael

@Konssurvative1

So a pandemic isn’t an actual and verified reason for mail in ballots?

No. Not for the most important act of citizenship.

If voting is “the most important act of citizenship” … why make it harder to do?

[NickN]

@JayJay

Disenfranchise what legitimate voters?

Are you familiar with this 1892 case?

McPherson v. Blacker, 146 U.S. 1 (1892)

[wiley8425]

That was the point. Republicans wanted to stop mail in votes specifically because they didn’t want those votes to count. I guess nobody bothered to tell them that Republican voters also vote by mail.