You made an assertion. How many?
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Probably more of a concern than Nazi luvvin libz is how completely ingrained Russian agitprop is into the “American” right wing media eco system.
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The scale of the massacres in World War II are far greater than anything alleged in Ukraine today.
The similarity to current events is that western governments are likely to view politics and war tactics as far more important than truth. Here is a quote from the earlier NBC link that basically admits that:
. . . U.S. officials said they had indications suggesting Russia might be preparing to use chemical agents in Ukraine.
President Joe Biden later said it publicly. But three U.S. officials told NBC News this week there is no evidence Russia has brought any chemical weapons near Ukraine. They said the U.S. released the information to deter Russia from using the banned munitions.
Yes, the US has been this routinely. In this case they accuse Russians of preparing to use chemical weapons, raising visibility and it’s a deterrence to their use. Exactly like it said in your snippet.
Exactly what the ■■■■ is the problem with that?
You made an assertion. How many?
You can keep twisting in the wind. You claimed something that’s mildly beyond the pale and now trying to say it’s common therefore it’s true. Like I said gross
How can we not trust WaronFakes?
Here they debunk that Zelenskyy is in Kyiv.
Totes legit.
The media are filled with baseless assertions that are treated as facts. The quote from NBC admits that.
I am merely pointing out that there are alternative assertions that appear to be plausible. Unlike the media I don’t claim that they necessarily true.
No you said it is unknown who killed these people. You then asserted collaboration. You are not just asking questions and being a contrarian. You are accusing.
They point out that the video is consistent with a green screen. Biden has done similar things:
It isn’t consistent with green screen.
They are lying to you
^^^** says the guy who has worked in TV and movie Production for over 20 years^^^^^
I am saying that there are alternative possibilities. Civilians are often accidentally killed during war as well.
The assertion in the western media is that a Ukrainian video is sufficient evidence to prove that Russia was responsible for a massacre. Unquestioningly accepting similar assertions have gotten us into multiple wars in the past.
Accidentally killed while tied up.
All accidents.
They were tied and shot in the head. We are not discussing bombardment victims. Those are a given. We are discussing a very specific act.
The Taliban is now the most well armed terrorist group in the world because of the clockwork smooth pullout. Now the far right in the Ukraine will be the most well armed far right group in the world. Biden is setting some records here. I am ok with people supporting Azov but at the agreement if they are going to do that stop calling everyone on the right here far-right and Nazis in America, since they are ok with arming them in the Ukraine.
Because these Azov guys being armed in the Ukraine are there most lethal fighters imagine this guy with his BTR-4 going lose on Antifa if he can do this to two Russian T-72 tanks what would he do to Trigglypuff.
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Yes, we should unquestioningly assume that the leaders of three NATO countries really went to Kiev during the war.
Is there any proof that the meeting really occurred in Kiev?
Or is more likely that it really occurred on the Polish side of the border and the Kiev location was just propaganda?
So all the Press people that he walked past are in on it?
Russians should have stuck to attempting to liberate the Donbas.
Then their argument they were trying to “de-Nazify” Ukraine or else save Russians from being oppressed in Ukraine would hold more water.
The Ukrainians were doing some bad ■■■■ to Russian minorities.
Instead Putin got dreams of restoring former Russian Glory in his head.
(Plus some practical concerns, like food and resources).
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They were but not before 2014. Sooo but i do agree afterwards they were not abiding by the Minsk accords like st all. They were shelling civilians for sure.
Well yeah because before 2014 the government was Russian-leaning.
Ok Did they do anything to those civilians before donbass declared itself a separatist region but after Maidan
