Your Central Government and VP At Work

Why would I? I don’t think my parents would have allowed me to work that much, in fact I know they wouldn’t.

You might not have been offered a job then.

Oh and I did work that much as a teen. I didn’t see OSHA come in and stop me. Routinely worked double shifts six days a week in restaurants back then. So 16 hours a day six days a week.

I wasn’t around at that time. But from what I’ve heard that was the norm when left up to the employers and their expectations. They don’t care about us. It was 12 hours a day, 6 days a week. But again, I wasn’t there. But it wouldn’t surprise me.

They weren’t forcing them to. If my parents said no, nobody was going to drag me off to work.

You just said:

So which is true?

And our Constitution delegates to Congress power to enter the States and enforce such restrictions?

Seems to me those who framed our Constitution, and the States who ratified it, would emphatically disagree such power was granted to Congress. As a matter of record, here is a summary of the division of power between the states and federal government as expressed by one of our Founders:

“The powers delegated by the proposed Constitution to the federal government are few and defined. Those which are to remain in the State governments are numerous and indefinite. The former will be exercised principally on external objects, as war, peace, negotiation, and foreign commerce; with which last the power of taxation will, for the most part, be connected.

The powers reserved to the several States will extend to all the objects which, in the ordinary course of affairs, concern the lives, liberties, and properties of the people, and the internal order, improvement, and prosperity of the State." ___ Federlist No. 45

Additionally, the Tenth Amendment declares:

“The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States, respectively, or to the people.”
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Seems quite clear that our federal government is attempting to usurp and exercise powers not granted by our Constitution.

JWK

I left home at 15. So both.

ah. got it.

No high school?

If there was no labor movement, we’d be screwed. None, zero of what we have today is a result of the kindness of businesses. Even though you may not have worked, plenty of others would.

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Yep.

But it’s slowly getting wound back. We’re inching back toward the Gilded Age.

Or fix the problem on the first

Of course laying off the first shift would decrease profits.

Corporations don’t like leaving money on the table.

Allan

Pretend for a minute that you aren’t on a political message board where you feel obligated to oppose everything a perceived liberal says.

Instead, you are sitting at your local corner bar having a drink after your day at the office.

A guy comes in, white as a sheet, soaking in sweat. You recognize him! It’s your buddy Joe - you went to HS with him…

“Joe, you don’t look so good…what happened?” you ask.

Joe tells you that at the meat packing plant he works at, the quota system doesn’t allow for time for bathroom or water breaks, so he passed out today as it was 90F outside, and about 100 in the plant.

Would you;

a) Feel sympathetic to Joe and agree that management at his factory should give him water and bathroom breaks without penalty, especially on hot days.

b) Shrug and go back to your drink.

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Not enough. There’s still a danger of heat exhaustion. The only sound solution is to lay off first shift.

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They’ve got time, it’s when they use it to play on their phones or chat it up with a buddy instead of drinking fluids that the heat exhaustion kicks in.

I’m sure you wouldn’t mind if your company lost productivity. So start one, and poach workers from the overheating ones. I’m sure they’ll be beating down your door to not work for you.

Kids these days have never hauled hay, and it shows.

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I walked to school 10 miles to school though 5 Foot snow drifts back in the day…

Things has evolved slight since then.

Allan

Like you’re worried about a company losing profits. Ha!

Well, no, that’s not true in the cases I posted above.

Amazon, for example, has strict quota systems. If you don’t make quota you are fired. Employees have complained that the quoata systems don’t include time for bathroom breaks or water breaks. Hence the reports of pissing in bottles at tehir work station and the people passing out on hot days.