The child.

Don’t post hypocritical contents.

Don’t try to use an argument for gun control to justify limiting the ability to vote. By doing that you are equating a human life to a paper ballot.

“Am I? Strange”

Yes you are. I saved you a post.

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Ah, the Jenkins argument. Are the two not rights under the Constitution? Is one lesser than the other? Diminished as it were?

I don’t see how you can claim that an ID and fees in one case suppress the ability to exercise a right and in the second, the exact same requirements do not.

Can you explain that please?

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No, I am equating a right to a right.

@calirepub what is it that you liked about that post?

Yes they are in the constitution

“Lesser” is the wrong word. They stand on their own.

I am not making that argument. They are both suppression’s. A fraudulently filed vote is not going to kill anyone. A gun has one purpose.

I am fine with not requiring an ID to vote or keep and bear arms.

I am willing to accept requiring an ID to do both.

If it is going to cost me over $100 to exercise one, it needs to cost the same for the other.

What I am not ok with is one and not the other. But then I am not a hypocrite.

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The rights are not the same.

You and I are both US Citizens… but that does not mean we have the same shoe size, height, weight, skin color, parents, skills etc.

And because we are different… I need different tools and solutions than you do. That is how I see the different between the right vote vs bear arms

Of that voter fraud commission, didn’t anyone else find it weird that a member of that commission had to sue the Administration to get pertinent information about that same Commission?

Good.

What do you mean? That it’s ok to suppress one and not the other? How?

So you are rationalizing suppressing one and not the other? Can I do that?

Do you believe the requirements to keep and bear arms suppresses the exercise of that Constitutionally-recognized right among minorities and the economically challenged?

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How are they different?

So you need a smaller gun? No argument.

I won’t pretend to understand that. What does “need” have to do with either one? You don’t need to vote. In fact, your one vote is not going to make any difference at all. Not true of the other.

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You may not understand this, but stringent requirements for both benefit me more than anything else. And yet I don’t support them for either.

Who exactly would that? Quotes?

It only takes a handful or even a single vote to overturn a single election.

In states without voter ID we know the potential for rampant fraud exists because it’s all but impossible to prove.

We do however know it exists because of the idiots that are too stupid to get away with it.

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Trying to cherry pick the Constitution. Tsk, tsk, tsk.

Do you support fees and permits for speaking in the public square too?

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Absolutely not as the SCOTUS has determined. Protecting the sanctity and security of the vote is all that is necessary to justify it and whatever inconvenience it causes for eligible voters is superseded by the Duty to Ensure free, fair, and honest elections according to numerous court rulings.

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I’d be fine with this.

I’m fine with the same…but only one time…once one has registered.

All other times it’s not necessary to keep showing IDs.

At most voting precincts, they have your name and signature in a big book. When you show up to vote, they match your signature, and that’s fine with me.

Do you feel I am trying to convince you to carry a gun?

Why do you get to require me to do all these things for my “tools” but I can’t you for yours?

For both? I’m ok with that. Not what I would prefer, but I can live with it.

Dead voters, voters who have lost their vote due to convictions, have moved, been committed etc who remain on the rolls make it exceptionally easy for anyone to vote in their name.

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To what?