Actually, you’re wrong. I like this debate style. Who needs to be actually bothered with proving anything? Thanks Smyrna! :laughing:

I really wonder why anyone would be against insuring that our national elections are honest with steps put in place to protect it’s integrity? It makes no sense to me.

Really? When will you be addressing gerrymandering and closed primaries then? Asking for a friend.

Right now! I am against anything and everything that goes against an honest, fair and pure election attempting to determine the will of the people. Now…you got that?

I understand. I just named two things way more rampant than fraudulent voting. But that’s what a certain party is focused on while ignoring what I just mentioned. Because priorities.

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It has been.

You just assume it hasn’t been because you believe first.

There’s no evidence of widespread voter fraud…you simply believe it exists.

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I don’t know about you, but for me investigations don’t count unless they yield the results I want.

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That is NOT true and don’t repost sheople food.

Without voter ID it’s so hard to detect there’s no way to do such an investigation short of hiring hundreds of thousands of handwriting experts and using facial recognition tech to screen every voter who shows up.

Of course enacting any solid biometric ID requirement would instantly eliminate all but the most egregious, well organized attempts and those so stupid they can barely breathe, bathe, or even feed themselves so we’d never be able to even get a decent estimate on prevalence prior to enacting such measures.

An absolutely unprovable assertion of fact.

It has been…repeatedly by both seems and GOP…in academic studies and real investigations.

You simply choose to believe there is widespread fraud and so therefore accept no investigation that reveals an answer that doesn’t confirm your bias.

Absolutely probable.

We know gerrymandering is rampant.

There is zero evidence voter fraud is anywhere close to as rampant as gerrymandering.

Yeah…wouldn’t it be cool if mankind was as honest in everything else…as it is when voting? :sunglasses:

There’s absolutely no way to prove the prevalence of voter fraud or even voter registration fraud so the claim is totally unsupportable.

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The system is so perfect and yet, the voter rolls are so out of whack. Strange I tell you…just strange. :sunglasses:

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Easy, anyone who skips an election without providing proof of a valid reason should be stricken from the rolls and required to re register.

Those who stay active should be required to present adequate biometric ID at the polls for every vote, and to register.

Problem solved.

The voter rolls, which are much easier to examine for accuracy are found to be terrible but what is extremely hard to examine is…almost perfect? :thinking:

Yeah…I know. :sunglasses:

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It’s their big opportunity to steal the election(voting by mail). Everybody knows it including them though they will never ever admit it.

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No one here has said voting is perfect. We are simply saying that widespread voter fraud has not been proven.

…and I’m saying voter fraud hasn’t been investigated widespread.