If you are someone who is absolutely convinced that Trump won and Biden cheated then you might be willing to support undermining democracy and stealing the election because its righting a wrong.

Nobody believes that. Biden isn’t smart enough to cheat a third grader in a game of Fish.
But I would like them to come clean with how many bogus votes there were. Am I asking too much?

Is this information being blocked? Have you tried contacting each state’s election department? Maybe you need to file a FOI request.

Is there a precedent?

The legal system is a multiplicity of typewriters, and the legal profession are a multiplicity of monkeys. It’s often quite surprising what the left-handed monkeys produce that becomes designated by chance as justice.

If the Trump campaign keeps trying different keys, it could be that the right-handed monkeys eventually produce an argument that gets designated by chance as justice.

Chance doesn’t always only favor the left.

Trump supporters tend to believe in God, and in particular in the victory of Christ by a strategy that appeared to have no chance of success, and yet has transformed the planet. Insurmountable odds don’t phase people who walk by faith in God, and not by sight.

This is not how the legal system works. “Chance” has nothing to do with it.

Well at least you believe in God. That’s a positive.

“God” doesn’t have anything to do with it either.

Without God, everything in merely chance, and monkeys rule… or type.

It’s odd watching over the years the left shift to backing big business. Before they were talking of breaking up monopolies and lavish CEO pay Cough Jack Dorsey.

Across the six battleground states from this election so far the number of fraudulent votes could be counted on your fingers and toes with quite a few leftover, and that’s as of now. It takes awhile for complete fraudulent votes to be investigated and tried but the numbers go down with time, not up.

For example, in PA there have been a total of 3 fraudulent votes cast, all of them Republican. We can use a working number of 600 from past elections for the expected number of fraudulent votes in a national election rates, but this year appears to be exceptionally tight and clean and will be much lower than that.

So let’s round way up and say across those six battleground states there were a total of two dozen fraudulent vote attempts

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/voter-fraud-investigations-2020/2020/12/22/bdbe541c-42de-11eb-b0e4-0f182923a025_story.html

I don’t know. Would you support Pence discarding electors as he sees fit?

You tell me? Have you heard the numbers? Any theories as to why not?

I doubt it. Peter just mentioned some above. No.

It’s not very many, looks like it will be well under 100 nationally and the number in the 6 battleground states looks like it will be 10 or less. If we can keep Trump voters on the straight and narrow it could be literally zero.

If allegedly certified results are challenged, debated and the evidence showed that the legal certification process was not followed by the state concerned, it could be quite appropriate for Pence not to recognise the envelope as a certification.

But the people should be informed of how many fraudulent votes there were. Right? Were there 3 thousand. 30 thousand or 300 thousand? We have no idea because they won’t tell us. Am I a bad person for wanting to know?

Unfortunately, there is no way to know for certain, is there? The only way I see is to query every single voter in America and get a statement. Every.single.one. That’s pretty much an impossible task, which you know.

Much better is to examine a sample size and determine if there were any fraudulent votes in that sample and then extrapolate. Would that be reasonable?

They really haven’t shifted though, and republicans are giving an incoming democratic administration a mandate to regulate.

No one will have to offer them that good time twice.