WOW...maybe there is hope afterall

conan · 2019-12-06T21:17:35.730Z

I caught this…could it be?

Senior Republicans and Democrats in Congress have said they support terminating the National Security Agency’s controversial surveillance tool that collects information about U.S. phone calls and text messages, in opposition to a Trump administration push to preserve the program.

The growing consensus to let the once-secret program lapse marks a significant shift from four years ago, when lawmakers voted by wide margins on both sides of the aisle to renew it—with limitations.

All fine and dandy but will they?

It became pretty clear how the system can be abused…specially under Obama administration.

But al least it seems they’re finally “getting it”

The NSA declined to comment. In public testimony to both the Senate and House of Representatives in recent months, Susan Morgan, an NSA official, said the agency wanted to preserve the legal authority to keep the program running because technological changes could make it valuable in the future. But that defense was met with forceful skepticism from lawmakers in both parties and Ms. Morgan was unable to point to any examples of the tool aiding terrorism investigations.

It gives me hope…this shouldn’t be a party line issue.

And it gives me great joy after nearly 20 years of fighting. So let hope they do the right thing.

WSJ

NSA Phone Surveillance Program Faces an End as Parties Come Together

Senior Republicans and Democrats in Congress have said they support terminating the National Security Agency’s controversial surveillance tool that collects information about U.S. phone calls and text messages.

party-free · 2019-12-06T21:19:32.050Z

a Trump administration push to preserve the program.

Awkward.

WuWei · 2019-12-06T21:31:37.827Z

party-free:

a Trump administration push to preserve the program.

Awkward.

Not at all, @conan is party free when it comes to this issue. He hammered Bush for it.

Konssurvative1 · 2019-12-06T21:40:44.199Z

I did not…at the time…but as the abuses became more prevalent I grew more and more strongly against it. And yeah…@Conan was strongly against it when first proposed and enacted.

DougBH · 2019-12-06T21:48:05.275Z

I don’t think the full extent of what the NSA was doing became known until Clapper lied under oath about not having a database on every American. That sort of opened the can of worms.

Slate Magazine – 13 Jun 13

Obama’s Nonanswers to Questions About Government Surveillance

The National Security Agency has been compiling a database of everyone’s phone records. But don’t worry. According to the Obama administration, it’s...

party-free · 2019-12-06T22:20:48.703Z

I don’t see a lot of hammering of Trump in this OP from Conan. Maybe you could point it out?

Jezcoe · 2019-12-06T22:31:51.720Z

It was one of the major reasons I never cast a vote for Obama.

SixFoot · 2019-12-06T22:56:50.622Z

conan:

All fine and dandy but will they?

If they want to get rid of it, it’s because they already have something better.

WuWei · 2019-12-06T23:01:34.459Z

party-free:

I don’t see a lot of hammering of Trump in this OP from Conan. Maybe you could point it out?

You lost. Move along.

WuWei · 2019-12-06T23:02:26.632Z

Jezcoe:

It was one of the major reasons I never cast a vote for Obama.

Wrong side of history.

party-free · 2019-12-06T23:05:25.664Z

WuWei:

You lost. Move along.

I don’t see a lot of hammering of Trump in this OP from Conan. Maybe you could point it out?

WuWei · 2019-12-06T23:07:13.450Z

party-free:

WuWei:

You lost. Move along.

I don’t see a lot of hammering of Trump in this OP from Conan. Maybe you could point it out?

goalpost

conan · 2019-12-07T00:23:40.131Z

If I didn’t know any better libs don’t support me in this endeavor…I wonder why.

Or maybe they seen how it can be used against their political enemies.

party-free · 2019-12-07T01:04:20.762Z

party-free:

I don’t see a lot of hammering of Trump in this OP from Conan. Maybe you could point it out?

You proved no point. Hammering Bush doesn’t matter if he doesn’t also hold Trump to the same account. I don’t see a lot of hammering of Trump in this OP from Conan. Maybe you could point it out?

I mean, I get why you posted a meme instead of posting proof. That’s how the meme crowd works. Can’t refute? Post a meme!

WuWei · 2019-12-07T01:59:45.054Z

party-free:

party-free:

I don’t see a lot of hammering of Trump in this OP from Conan. Maybe you could point it out?

You proved no point. Hammering Bush doesn’t matter if he doesn’t also hold Trump to the same account. I don’t see a lot of hammering of Trump in this OP from Conan. Maybe you could point it out?

I mean, I get why you posted a meme instead of posting proof. That’s how the meme crowd works. Can’t refute? Post a meme!

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PurpnGold · 2019-12-07T02:08:09.748Z

conan:

If I didn’t know any better libs don’t support me in this endeavor…I wonder why.

Or maybe they seen how it can be used against their political enemies.

I 100% support getting rid of this program.