What’s ironic is that you can’t refute the fact that the OP is oversimplified
bootz
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and you cannot elaborate on how it is oversimplified or what is inaccurate. Probably because you do not know.
Uhm, you literally mentioned “governor’s” actions “like the Chinese Communist party” in an OP talking about China not letting farmers own land.
Yes I can…but it should be self-evident.
What governors “took share in private companies”?
How do you get from “taking shares in private companies” to Democrats are going to take away the land of all farmers and make it illegal for them to own land?
bootz
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well, did I mention private property and public property as well?
do you think that governors ordering businesses shut is abusing their private property rights?
do you think bailing out businesses with no revenues makes them dependent on government?
WuWei
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Is the government allowed to create orders and mandates which violate the Constitution?
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No, not in a public health crisis where millions of lives are at stake. How do you get from “shutting down during a public health crisis” to “democrats are going to take away farmer’s lands just like China”? Is Trump a democratic socialist? Didn’t he order food plants to stay open?
bootz
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Now you’re saying:
Who knows what you’re point is, you can’t even keep track of your own.
bootz
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You are conflating two separate issues.
I am sure when you want to that you can process more than one line of thought at a time. Or perhaps you cannot and that is why you are a liberal.
picture this, aid packages have been discussed in terms of the federal government taking equity positions in the airlines and Boeing, see link above.
Then there are the separate authoritarian actions, actions without a legislative process, taking place in the states by governors. Maine as an example. There are many more examples as well.
I hope that helps explain the issues to you somewhat.
bootz
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try answering a question maybe you will be less confused.
During a public health crisis. Therefore, Democrats via socialism are going to make it so that farmers can no longer own land?
I’m still waiting on how you get from “governors are shutting business down during a public health crisis to democratic socialists are going to outlaw farmer’s ability to own land”
Notwithstanding the fact that farmers are already indentured servants working on behalf of the giant food producing governments.
Thanks to the federal government shelling out subsidies…which the conservative Congressmen of those states where the farms are LOVE…as opposed to loans.
Subsidies whose sole purpose is to keep farmers growing mostly corn and soybeans to provide cheap inputs to Monsanto and ConAgra.
But while Communism is bad, Corporatism is way cool.
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bootz
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I cannot imagine that a contrast between manufacturing and farming and private property versus collectives can be interpreted as anything else than what was stated.
But you cannot follow. put the pipe down, quit the pain killers, go to school and pray.
Another non answer. I’ll try again:
How do you get from “governors are closing businesses during a public health crisis” to “democratic socialists are going to stop farmer’s from being able to own land.”
?
We need a trade deal with these evil commies! Trump will make it happen.
bootz
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I never said either.
remember that dj jazzy jeff song parents just don’t understand.
One more time.
China Privatized their economy except for farms. At least they allowed for some private property except for farms.
China exports manufactured goods and imports food.
inference is that the private economy outperforms the state run economy.
next issue is the lock down in Wuhan, it is a separate issue away from farms and factories.
the lockdown on Wuhan was authoritarian. our governors have adopted lock down policies as well.
AOC says get rid of private property and so does Bernie.
OP for dummies, does that help?