The fact that we have their vote says we have.
I guess Altair knows better how black people should vote than blacks people. He must be drawing from his years of experience as a black white person.
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Not yet, but they’re working on it.
You think black people care more about rhetoric or jobs?
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Some slight shifts lately for sure. No point answering the second question.
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Why? How in the hell is asking priorities insulting?
In people’s lives, they care about the bottom line. There is no style over substance if you struggle to pay your bills or feed your kids. Rhetoric doesn’t mean ■■■■ to people who still feel the weight of past injustices and live it every day. Blacks haven’t come close to recovering from what was done to them, and that is not a call to any particular action, just a fact, I don’t know how to fix it or if it can be fixed. It’s a slow process I know that. Near absolute denial of the ability to build generational wealth will take generations to recover from. Jobs of course. That I would think otherwise is what put a bad taste in my mouth.
Nope. Prove it. What is the top accomplishment from the dems in the past ten years? Does it come anywhere near the Donald Trump record low unemployment? Nobody has put more money in the pockets of minorities than Donald Trump.
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FloridaYankee:
In people’s lives, they care about the bottom line. There is no style over substance if you struggle to pay your bills or feed your kids. Rhetoric doesn’t mean ■■■■ to people who still feel the weight of past injustices and live it every day. Blacks haven’t come close to recovering from what was done to them, and that is not a call to any particular action, just a fact, I don’t know how to fix it or if it can be fixed. It’s a slow process I know that. Near absolute denial of the ability to build generational wealth will take generations to recover from. Jobs of course. That I would think otherwise is what put a bad taste in my mouth.
I didn’t accuse you of anything, so wind your neck in. We agree, I think so too. In my uniformed, white privilege opinion, black people care about the same things I do.
The people so worried about rhetoric are white libs, mostly males, who don’t have to worry about jobs.
Che was a dentist, not a dirt farmer.

mobulis:
Thanks Obama.
Yeah. That’s it. Pretty brilliant of him. To come up with a plan as president that doesn’t kick into high gear for six or seven years. Making his successor look like a genius… Way to go Barack! 
Unemployment rates are important. Who was in charge when that rate declined do much in the first 4/5 of this graph? Seems like a really good accomplishment. Trump took over in 2017, right?

Six or seven years? We are talking unemployment, right? Perhaps you should familiarize yourself with the data.
Good point. When the options were rhetoric D versus rhetoric R, the Dems talked a more worthwhile game. But when the choice became between rhetoric D and actual improvement in living standards, they haven’t stood a chance.
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Paul_Thomson:
Good point. When the options were rhetoric D versus rhetoric R, the Dems talked a more worthwhile game. But when the choice became between rhetoric D and actual improvement in living standards, they haven’t stood a chance.
It will take time and consistency.
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Paul_Thomson:
Good point. When the options were rhetoric D versus rhetoric R, the Dems talked a more worthwhile game. But when the choice became between rhetoric D and actual improvement in living standards, they haven’t stood a chance.
The CRA passed in 1964, since then the lives blacks have gained improvement, and they continue to vote democratic. So they obviously credit Dem policies for this improvement.

Paul_Thomson:
Good point. When the options were rhetoric D versus rhetoric R, the Dems talked a more worthwhile game. But when the choice became between rhetoric D and actual improvement in living standards, they haven’t stood a chance.
Without the identity politics rhetoric the dems would be dead in the water.
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