Would it be wrong if Trump banned Alex Jones

BlueTex · 2018-09-11T12:33:15.887Z

zantax:

I just told you, it can’t currently do everything I need it to do, and it’s also cumbersome and clunky to use, when that changes I’m out. It’s still in its infancy and consequently lacks a lot of content but that will change.

What is missing from the dweb that prevents you from moving to using it exclusively? Not trying to argue, just trying to see what’s missing.

Do you see businesses moving to the DWeb anytime soon?

zantax · 2018-09-11T12:33:47.029Z

dantes:

zantax:

when the Dweb can do everything I currently use the current web for.

Good luck with that.

It seems to have a problem with convincing me my data is going to be more secure if it’s in many different places on random individual’s devices.

Most of the internet is social media/networks and these require critical mass before they’re useful.

It is more secure

https://www.coindesk.com/information/what-is-blockchain-technology/

dantes · 2018-09-11T12:52:34.250Z

Sort of. It seems like it’s a different form of security.

The Blockchain creates a public record of your actions and it’s disrributed and freely investigated. All one needs is a your key.

Crypto currency doesn’t seem all that secure to me.

CNBC – 7 Jun 18

$1.1 billion in cryptocurrency has been stolen this year, and it was...

More than $1 billion worth of cryptocurrency was stolen in the first half of 2018, and unfortunately for those who own crypto, it's pretty easy to do, according to cybersecurity company Carbon Black.

zantax · 2018-09-11T13:16:50.856Z

dantes:

Sort of. It seems like it’s a different form of security.

The Blockchain creates a public record of your actions and it’s disrributed and freely investigated. All one needs is a your key.

Crypto currency doesn’t seem all that secure to me.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/07/1-point-1b-in-cryptocurrency-was-stolen-this-year-and-it-was-easy-to-do.html

Did you read the article, they didn’t hack the coins directly, they used ransomware to extort them. That’s like saying your money in a conventional bank isn’t secure because you paid ransomware extortion with your conventional dollars.

dantes · 2018-09-11T13:21:54.208Z

Ransomware is one means but the article talks about Mt Gox and Coincheck bout for handreds is millions of dollars without the use of ransom ware.

zantax · 2018-09-11T16:14:50.036Z

dantes:

Ransomware is one means but the article talks about Mt Gox and Coincheck bout for handreds is millions of dollars without the use of ransom ware.

You don’t think the regular web loses money to hackers?

dantes · 2018-09-11T16:17:57.910Z

Of course not and I said nothing of the sort. The point is that claiming blockchain is more secure seems to defy evidence.

zantax · 2018-09-11T16:22:04.575Z

dantes:

Of course not and I said nothing of the sort. The point is that claiming blockchain is more secure seems to defy evidence.

Well lets take Mt Gox as an example, it wasn’t the tech, it was their incompetence. Otherwise the hackers would have nailed everyone.

from India's top digital payments firm bets on local expertise to fend off rivals | Reuters

“It was a well-known issue that every major exchange in the bitcoin community knew about and had solutions for. Mt. Gox did not,” said Jordan Kelley, chief executive of Robocoin, the world’s first bitcoin ATM maker.

In addition, hackers aren’t going to be anywhere near as incentivized to get their hands on your files.

Bodecea · 2018-09-11T16:23:32.617Z

bootz:

if it is wrong for trump why is it ok for others?

Government vs. Private businesses. It’s really not that hard.

Bodecea · 2018-09-11T16:24:34.480Z

rp5x5:

What a stupid thread.

Did Kavanaugh ever think of an example of laws controlling men’s bodies?

Bodecea · 2018-09-11T16:25:33.044Z

CaughtInTheMiddle:

armycowboy:

bootz:

if it is wrong for trump why is it ok for others?

You really don’t understand the difference between public and private?

Why do we constantly have to explain really basic stuff?

The answer to your question explains the results of the last election.

Bodecea · 2018-09-11T16:25:58.364Z

BillBrown:

Zander:

And it would be abhorrent and a violation of the Constitution if Trump banned conservative media. It would be a catastrophe. Liberals would be dismayed.

Trump could make the blind see and the lame walk and liberals would be dismayed.

You let us know when that happens and then we can talk.

dantes · 2018-09-11T16:26:26.977Z

It can never be the technologies fault since all technology requires implementation. There’s vulnerabilities everywhere.

Claiming blockchain is more secure just doesn’t stand to scrutiny as long as these things keep happening.

Bodecea · 2018-09-11T16:27:08.544Z

FloridaYankee:

bootz:

what about the KKK or white nationalists.
what if he closed conservative outlets?
would it be good if Trump stopped dissent?

Are you actually defending Alex Jones’ “right” to break the rules he agreed to on all those social media platforms he has been banned from?

Apparently, Alex Jones is missing an opportunity here. He should move all of his internet business to THIS site…Hannity would never ever ever censor him in any way. That would be WRONG.

Bodecea · 2018-09-11T16:30:15.189Z

calirepub:

reflechissez:

The OP doesn’t really care about this He just wants people to engage with him. He’s is fully aware of what the first amendment means. He’s just pretending not to so that the thread won’t die.

What kind of person would do that?

Needy. As needy as my 10 year old Labrador Retriever.

zantax · 2018-09-11T16:30:18.553Z

dantes:

It can never be the technologies fault since all technology requires implementation. There’s vulnerabilities everywhere.

Claiming blockchain is more secure just doesn’t stand to scrutiny as long as these things keep happening.

They didn’t hack in and steal existing bit coins, it’s more akin to a dupe exploit in an mmo. If you aren’t familiar with it I can explain further but to put it shortly they lagged them out with dos attacks and used that delay to redeem existing coins multiple times.

dantes · 2018-09-11T16:37:59.894Z

Please, explain it further. I’m very interested.

zantax · 2018-09-11T16:40:31.715Z

dantes:

Please, explain it further. I’m very interested.

Go here and scroll down to the DOS attack section

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Weaknesses

zantax · 2018-09-11T16:42:11.031Z

Point being it’s not applicable to the security of your personal data.

dantes · 2018-09-11T16:48:30.553Z

Says nothing about the Mt Gox hack, which based on everything I’ve read certainly was a theft of real existing bitcoins over the process of years.

Blockchain doesn’t protect anonymity. It actually publicizes activity in a public ledger able to be scraped.