Still waiting for the religion aspect. Killing a unborn child should be illegal and not a choice, if you don’t want a child you have the choice to not have sex or use protection.
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Are these the questions we should be asking? Let’s instead go to the basic or essential questions:
- Is it right to take an innocent life?
- Is it right to sell one’s body for sex?
- Is it right to enslave another person?
There are people who would answer yes to all, and there are people who would answer no to all. How many are fence straddlers? (i.e., I wouldn’t do it but if someone else wants to…)
Should people who wouldn’t do it themselves be encouraging others to do something they know, deep down, is wrong? Instead, shouldn’t they be advocating for the ideal? The people who think these things are right can convince the undecided.
Yep.
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Yep…
Do you have a choice in rape? Do you have a choice when a fetus becomes unviable in the womb? Do you realize this is a complicated world and these things are seldom so black and white as you are conveniently phrasing them while you judge complete strangers you know absolutely nothing about? Abortion isn’t always “killing” something. It can also be the removal of a an already dead fetus someone is carrying.
Abortions that occur at late stages in pregnancy are usually the result of tragic diagnoses and are exactly the scenarios wherein patients need their doctors, and not obstructive politicians aiming to please the religions of their consituency.
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I’m just saying that all these women and abortion advocates need to quit using the platform of women’s rights to their bodies as the reasoning to make abortion ok. When, as the example I used about prostitution is illegal for women.
Terminating a 19 week pregnancy is so inhumane, but separating sentient toddlers from their families and putting them in cages is fine?
Pregnancy has everything to do with women’s rights to their bodies. You cannot separate the two.
Particularly when the reality is that there are two bodies involved and the more powerful one wants to get rid of the weaker one.
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Are these the questions we should be asking? Let’s instead go to the basic or essential questions:
- Is it right to sell one’s body for sex?
Great question. What is any employment contract other than an exchange of the use of parts of one’s body for money. Some people work with their hands, some people work with their minds, some work with the strength of their entire body… but is there something fundamentally different about exchanging the labor of one’s genitals (or mouth for that matter) for money?
One definite issue here is that women are forced into this sort of work or exploited by pimps. That would be wrong. But as a straight up exchange of one’s labor for cash, why is this one different?
Yes, we can. Two lives, two bodies. When have we ever been in favor of the more powerful exploiting the weak? We put up with it because there is little we can do. Doesn’t mean we should lend our approval.
The question is whether you think it is right for you to sell your body for sex.
I understand the concerns on rape and medical problems where the baby would not survive, but the casual killing of unborn babies because that woman made bad choices shouldn’t give them ANY right to terminate a life because they don’t want to deal with it or able to afford it or whatever excuse you can think of. They made the choice to engage in the activity knowing that pregnancy is a possibility if not done safely.
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It’s about what’s moral or immoral in the context of rights to your own body. It’s why heroin is illegal. It’s why some view prostitution differently than abortion. Boiling things down to generic slogans is rarely a good way of approaching an issue. You have the right to cut your hair how you want. Does that mean prostitution should be legal?
Who (but you) said anything like that?
The issue isn’t what a woman can and cannot do with her body. Sexual acts aren’t forbidden. The issue is what a woman (or anyone else) can and cannot do for money. It’s a regulation of commerce and there are a lot of reasons beyond moral that one may want prostitution outlawed.
Yes …it’s absolutely fine. They broke our laws and are being detained for breaking those laws. If it’s not comfortable enough for them, then they should enter the country legally. It shouldn’t be a luxury hotel type facility.
Ding ding ding… you got it. That’s the whole point I was trying to make. It’s not about a woman’s body, But they’re using that as their reasoning to justify abortion.
There should be laws controlling men’s bodies too.
This is such a weak and pointless semantic argument
