With the new Juneteenth federal holiday I have seen the light

[WuWei]

Still ok with it.

[Samm]

@GrandWazoo

At least we are going to have a new holiday that is date certain.

I don’t get holidays … I’m retired.

[Supreme_War_Pig]

@EternalVigilance

@Supreme_War_Pig

Robert E. Lee was an honourable man, he just chose the wrong side of the war. For certain, he is no Nathan Bedford forest.

Lee is a complex figure and not somebody that’s easily broadbrushed when compared to most of the Confederacy. There’s many paradoxes with the man and some of his post-war actions showed remorse. That said, I don’t think we need to name schools after him anymore.

I very much agree👍

[FloridaYankee]

@WuWei

@JayJay

@WuWei

@JayJay

@WuWei

@hindsight

Is there something wrong with declaring Juneteenth a federal holiday?

There will be.

Why is that?

Identities.

Celebrating the end of slavery in this country is a bad thing?

Not at all. It is however an exclusive thing.

Yeah, exclusive to Americans.

[TheDoctorIsIn]

Why were they put up then?

[Supreme_War_Pig]

@peek-a-boo

@Supreme_War_Pig

The statues should not have been erected (especially those put up from about 1880 to 1960 or so), so it naturally follows they should come down immediately.

They are an offense to the honor and promise of our nation.

So why not 30 years ago? What is the urgency now?

I wouldn’t describe it as “urgent”.

We have finally, at long last, reached the critical collective mass of disgust about those statues and what they stand for. It is time for them to go.

[FloridaYankee]

@DougBH

Cornyn is right. This is the second race based black holiday. Why? Possible reason to have Dems lead the charge and single out Republicans who see this as pushing the envelope. If so, let’s wait for them to come up with yet another such holiday.

If celebrating and commemorating the end of one of the cruelest and most rapacious practices in human history isn’t worth celebrating, just WHAT THE ■■■■ IS?

[Supreme_War_Pig]

@peek-a-boo

@SixFoot

And he’ll be called racist names by the left.

Uncle Tom to be exact. It is unconscionable to a LIB that a black man could actually make it in this world without their help. The conservative black man is really nothing but a puppet to white conservatives. They are simply pulling his strings.

That LIB characterization of a conservative black person is the height of racism.

Ridiculous

[DMK]

@PurpnGold

Nobody in your family fought to free slaves. Freeing slaves was an unintended consequence.

The Underground Railroad was not an unintended consequence.

[Rurudyne]

@hindsight

Is there something wrong with declaring Juneteenth a federal holiday?

It’s cultural appropriation of Texan culture!

[WuWei]

And the rebuilding begins…

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/new-jersey/articles/2021-06-17/700-pound-george-floyd-statue-unveiled-at-newark-city-hall

https://abc7chicago.com/george-floyd-statue-newark-city-hall-leon-pickney-mayor-ras-baraka/10801806/

[PurpnGold]

@DMK

@PurpnGold

Nobody in your family fought to free slaves. Freeing slaves was an unintended consequence.

The Underground Railroad was not an unintended consequence.

“Underground Railroad” preceded the civil war. The civil war was not fought to free slaves.

[WuWei]

@Supreme_War_Pig

critical collective

Love it. Consensus!

[DMK]

@PurpnGold

“Underground Railroad” preceded the civil war. The civil war was not fought to free slaves.

They fought to free slaves. Does one have to be a soldier or be in the Civil War for it to count in your book that not everyone believed in slavery? That they risked to help?

[WuWei]

@PurpnGold

@DMK

@PurpnGold

Nobody in your family fought to free slaves. Freeing slaves was an unintended consequence.

The Underground Railroad was not an unintended consequence.

“Underground Railroad” preceded the civil war. The civil war was not fought to free slaves.

John Brown, a white man, and his sons, hacked people up to free slaves. And attacked the US.

[PurpnGold]

@DMK

They fought to free slaves. Does one have to be a soldier or be in the Civil War for it to count in your book that not everyone believed in slavery?

We were talking specifically about the civil war. That was the context of the conversation you responded to.

[Jezcoe]

@WuWei

@PurpnGold

@DMK

@PurpnGold

Nobody in your family fought to free slaves. Freeing slaves was an unintended consequence.

The Underground Railroad was not an unintended consequence.

“Underground Railroad” preceded the civil war. The civil war was not fought to free slaves.

John Brown, a white man, and his sons, hacked people up to free slaves. And attacked the US.

Yep…. He was on the right side of history.

He also accepted his punishment and hung for his crimes.

[WuWei]

@Jezcoe

Yep…. He was on the right side of history.

He also accepted his punishment and hung for his crimes.

The crime of freeing slaves.

[DMK]

@PurpnGold

We were talking specifically about the civil war. That was the context of the conversation you responded to.

I broadened the context.

Have any kind of good things to say about people who opposed slavery and tried to help? Or is it just all one sided?

[Jezcoe]

@WuWei

@Jezcoe

Yep…. He was on the right side of history.

He also accepted his punishment and hung for his crimes.

The crime of freeing slaves.

The crime of knocking over a federal armory.