Will Mitch follow his own standards?

[Bosun]

God Bless Ruth Bader Ginsburg.

[coolidge]

@conan

Isn’t that cute…a lib telling us all about standards.

Yeah i find it very ironic. The political games harry reid use to play and not a word from the base about his tactics. Now it comes full circle and bites them in their ass. But all of sudden standards are now important.

[Paul_Thomson]

@Borgia_dude

No chance. And not a single conservative will criticize his hypocrisy. They will applaud it.

However, if Trump nominates someone from his list before the election, the Democrats objection to her appointment will feed in to deliberations re the election, and this debate could force the Dems to present a shortlist of their own. This could force them into being more transparent about their Supreme Court plans.

[fallenturtle]

@SixFoot

How good were Obama’s chances at getting reelected?

When was the last time the opposing party of the President confirmed his nomination during an election year?

1988 Anthony Kennedy

[fallenturtle]

@Guvnah

@fallenturtle

The American people should have a voice in the selection of their next Supreme Court Justice.

They spoke in November 2016 for this replacement.

Great, then you agree we should wait for them to speak in November 2020 as well.

[Samm]

@Borgia_dude

@SpacemanSpiff

@WuWei

Mod Note

This is for you specifically and everybody generally, there won’t be any “political notes” in this thread today. We as a group can offer 24 hours of respect for Justice Ginsburg.

If you all are bound and determined to discuss the politics of this national tragedy, you can start another thread. I would advise extreme caution.

As we’ve all heard, Supreme Court Justice RBG has passed away. As the title asks, will Mitch McConnell follow his own standards and wait until after the election for a new justice to be appointed?

No chance. And not a single conservative will criticize his hypocrisy. They will applaud it.

What hypocrisy? Mitch’s reasoning was that it was a certainty that a new President would be inaugurated soon. No such certainly exists today.

[Bosun]

Ditto.

[rp5x5]

@Borgia_dude

There is a long tradition that you don’t do this in an election year.”

There’s a long tradition, we don’t have, communist, rioting, anarchist, lying, cheating, satanic, crazy people trying to overthrow America and give it to a foreign country.

[once-ler]

@rp5x5

There’s a long tradition, we don’t have, communist, rioting, anarchist, lying, cheating, satanic, crazy people trying to overthrow America and give it to a foreign country.

What a frightening fictional world you describe.

[acsirip]

Will Mitch follow his own standards?
Of course not. These people are corrupt to the core.

[rp5x5]

@once-ler

@rp5x5

There’s a long tradition, we don’t have, communist, rioting, anarchist, lying, cheating, satanic, crazy people trying to overthrow America and give it to a foreign country.

What a frightening fictional world you describe.

Fictional hallucinations of 630,000 dead babies a year, more than enough for divine punishment to the country. Leftists be gone.

[Borgia_dude]

@Safiel

If Biden wins and Democrats take the Senate, they will likely quickly counter this move.

They will do this first by abolishing the legislative filibuster. Next, they will pass an act adjourning the remainder of the October 2020 Supreme Court term and adjourn the Supreme Court until October 2021, an act which Congress did in 1801, adjourning the 1802 Supreme Court terms. This would prevent the Supreme Court from deciding any new cases until Congress can further act.

Congress will likely add two new seats which would be filled by Biden in time for the Supreme Court’s return in October 2021.

During the adjournment of the Supreme Court, the Justices would be required to ride circuit as they did up until 1891.

I have zero doubt Democrats will decisively counter this move should they win full control. The progressive base of the Democratic Party will demand they do so. Additionally, they will not tolerate any possible overturn of Planned Parenthood v Casey.

So a victory by Trump in making an appointment could be a very ephemeral victory.

I’m a Dem and I sincerely hope the Dems don’t do this.

[komobu]

@SpacemanSpiff

Sure, too easy! Mitch wouldn’t even give Merrick Garland any kind of a hearing. He said to wait until after the election in order to give the American people a chance to decide. If he lets a new justice go through before Biden or Trump is sworn in then, ta-da!, hypocrisy!

I see no hypocrisy. The situation then and now are different. Then there was a divided house. Senate held by the Rs and the Executive by Ds. Now, both Executive and Senate are held by the Rs.

Tell me, if you had a Dem senate and a Dem Executive right now, would you support and expect them to wait until after the election to seat the next Justice?

[Borgia_dude]

@kingarthur65

@Bosun

I love red meat. Actually I love steak tartare and steak cooked quickly on a grill or flat top, flipped, and, hit to keep it from twitching.

God bless Senator Mcconnell and the conservative senators.

Trump may disagree with you. We will see what happens. I don’t think trump is gonna want this fight.

Trump loves these sort of fights. He ONLY plays to his base, that has been his m.o. for some time. No, Trump will nominate.

[Borgia_dude]

@conan

Yup…he knows how to play them. And they will play right into his hands.

I rarely agree with you but you are right. Some crazy Dems will go too far and that will play into Trump’s hand, negating this whole court issue for Dems.

[NickN]

[quote=“Safiel, post:32, topic:235483, full:true”]
If Biden wins and Democrats take the Senate, they will likely quickly counter this move.

Safiel, please list, if any, which one of your counter measures you so described will not be at least contemplated by either party in similar circumstances of a justice passing away right before a general election.

And noteworthy here is every sitting President prior has nominated his replacement pick in without exception.

[bigtwnvin]

I would think McConnell would do a head count. The Dims won’t approve any Trump nominee even if it were a black woman! Romney, McCluskey both nays. How many vulnerable Republicans in the Nov 3rd election should there be a vote?
The Rs really need to think this thing out.

[NickN]

@Paul_Thomson

However, if Trump nominates someone from his list before the election, the Democrats objection to her appointment will feed in to deliberations re the election, and this debate could force the Dems to present a shortlist of their own. This could force them into being more transparent about their Supreme Court plans.

Both the Dems and Republicans already know what their respective next moves - legal maneuver’s are long before a seat on the Supreme Court even suddenly becomes vacant.

[JayJay]

@Bill.in.PA

The new Senate comes in on January 3; that allows two months after the election for confirmation hearings and a vote.

No need to change any standards.

And if Biden wins, and a Dem Senate happens…a clear signal the American people don’t want Trump making the nomination?

[johnwk2]

@SixFoot

@fallenturtle

The American people should have a voice in the selection of their next Supreme Court Justice.

The constitution clearly lays out the process.

Exactly!

JWK

Those who reject abiding by the text of our Constitution, and the intentions and beliefs under which it was agree to, as documented from historical records and gives context to its text, wish to remove the anchor and rudder of our constitutional system so they may then be free to “interpret” the Constitution to mean whatever they wish it to mean.