Why should someone start believing in God?

There you go again. What opinion did I offer? I’m contributing to the discussion by asking a question. Sorry if that bothers you. Tell us how you know that these healings are “relatively rare.” I’d like to know your sources.

Again, you are discussing me, not the topic. Your turn. On topic, please.

I’m responding to something you said. I asked a question about something you said. This is a religious forum. The topic is god. Aren’t we talking about god?

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Specifically, how often miraculous healing occurs that can be attributed to God. Your thoughts?

Again, I’m not talking about poofing a new arm into existence but regrowing it. A starfish arm doesn’t take hundreds of years to regrow there is no reason to suspect, given the miraculous, that a human limb could be regrown in short time (a year maybe?)

Yes, I can imagine an all-powerful deity doing that. He had the power to create the heavens and the earth, right?

Science has actually thought about this. I don’t recall how it was calculated, but based on how long it takes to regrow a body part on a lizard or starfish, it is estimated it would take about two decades to grow something as large as a human limb. Then there is the problem of energy and metabolism needed to regenerate a human body part, and the effect it would have on the rest of the human body as it spends twenty years or so regrowing a single body part.

And, are you also imagining that the heavens and the earth were created in six days? :slight_smile:

God is constrained by these “rules”? Strange. Seems he could grow it faster if He wanted to.

Even if it took this long, I’m sure the person wouldn’t complain considering the alternative.

What about a hand or finger? Much, much faster yet still God hasn’t seen fit to heal something like that.

Is God incapable of doing this? Is healing an amputated hand beyond his powers?

The Apostle Paul most likely pondered the same “questions” but still found his peace and contentment without resolution of his thorny inquiry.

That’s nice. Perhaps Christians should just abandon the concept of God intervening and healing people.

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I have been under the apparently mistaken impression that you know the rudiments of science, and what spending twenty inactive years (while the body is regenerating a limb) would do to the rest of the body.

Again, imagining a genii with Hollywood camera powers, is not the same as trying to know God and His innate powers.

Half to admit I get quite a chuckle out of the capability of being able to imagine God as a genii yet (remembering a post from yesterday) apparently being totally incapable of imagining me having an actual experience with God. I guess some things are even beyond your imagination! :wink:

Not at all. Since 1858, the Catholic Church has verified sixty-nine miraculous cures at Lourdes. Some may consider that a drop in the bucket considering the millions of people who visit Lourdes each year, but we can also add into that the cures we hear about that have not taken place at Lourdes.

Nope. Specifically, how meriweather has determined that these things are “relatively rare.” Your thoughts?

It’s the most retarded argument: god is bound by science.

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Topic is not about me or the opinions I present. It is open for all to present their own thoughts and opinions. I’m not here to give you piggyback rides.

Really!!? I don’t see it that way at all. Tsk, tsk. Mind reading is not your forte.

Inactive? Why would you have to remain inactive while regenerating a finger?

I can imagine but I don’t think you have shared the details of this experience so what is there to discuss?

As I have pointed out previously, your experience with God has bolstered your faith similar to Paul’s Road to Damascus moment. If God truly wants people to come to Him, he cannot play favorites giving some an easy path to believing while denying that to others.

Excellent. We have some data. How did they distinguish between those who were cured via God versus those who just naturally cured?

Why not? Paul had always been devoted to God, which is why he was persecuting those he saw as turning from God.