Fair enough. Sounds like the jury is still out then.
Sorry if it comes across as nitpicking but there is a reason. Many Christian apologists say ALL men have knowledge of God and base this belief on a Bible verse. It appears the Paraha would invalidate that notion. If you’re not one that uses that argument, that’s fine.
It depends what words you use for your search. When you first mentioned studies in support of the efficacy of prayer, I googled study, prayer, scientific and my returns were not promising, most buts being about the lack of efficacy of prayer. Then when you provided your search terms, I found a couple of studies in support of the efficacy of prayer.
Sometimes it isn’t as easy as googling. Anyway, I’m glad you pointed me to some other studies. Thanks!
You’re the one throwing a hissy fit because people are asking you for sources regarding your claims. If you spent less energy being dramatic maybe you could put that energy to passing on a link instead of bringing every thread down to the mud
Paul is referencing Judaism here, a nation who saw God’s great works, yet some still denied him. The Romans would have at least heard of God, and Paul uses the watchmaker’s argument here: If there is a creation there must be a creator. In the next chapter, Paul speaks of the law being written on everyone’s heart.
Where the two come together is in Paul’s use of the term “Wrath of God.” It is helpful to know that while Paul uses this term (Wrath of God) he does not say that God is angry. Quite the contrary. The term “Wrath of God” comes from Old Testament prophets and its basic meaning is that world was built on a foundation of moral order. When this moral order is abused or not observed, bad things happen.
Since this thread addresses the concept that both believer and non-believers are usually moral, we can easily see the other’s argument: Non-believers can argue that as society evolved, so did morality. Believers present the argument that God’s intolerance of sin is seen because a society tends to eventually fall apart when it fails to observe moral law.
(Note: I have no patience for a sentiment of there is no good or evil, only thinking makes it so; or the argument there is no absolute morality.)