Why Libs are dumbasses

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@Jezcoe

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No, more self made billionaires out there than ever before in history, and it’s a matter of time before the first trillionaire comes about.

Every Billionaire under 30 was born with that money.

A Trillionaire would show just how broken our system actually is.

No one becomes a Billionaire without the direct exploitation of thousands of people. It just isn’t possible.

The problem is corrupt people, not a bad ideology. People have an expectation of being rewarded by their own efforts and labor and will always resent it when their fruit is taken and given to someone else, ESPECIALLY if the other people are contributing nothing to the pot. Eventually, producers will stop producing and society will be reduced to the lowest common denominator. EVERY TIME! Socialism and Communism both involve exactly that- someone other than the individual gets to decide what is done with what they earn.

You can rightfully argue that Capitalism can create greed and allow for some people to become incredibly rich, but in a capitalist system there is always a solid middle class, in which MOST people exist that allows them to prosper and enjoy a high level of freedom. By contrast, the closer a society moves towards socialism or Communism, the smaller the middle class becomes, yet the rich still exist.

There has never been a society, under any form of government in which the rich and powerful did not exist, and Jesus said " The poor will ALWAYS be among you." Government, no matter how benevolent or corrupt can not, and has never been able to eradicate poverty and elevate everyone to prosperity.

Kamala Harris has espoused the ideas of Communism. She believes in the tenets of Communism and her running mate even more so. It only takes one issue ( although she checks every box) to realize her desire for absolute control over the lives of Americans: her push for more restrictions on guns.

I asked this question once and got the standard Lib answer. See if you can do better ok?

Harris is on record of saying that assault rifles should be banned and a mandatory national buy back (IOW-CONFISCATION) program be instituted. Yet, she, nor any other Lib in the country, has specified what an assault rifle actually is. If American citizens are going to be required to turn in assault rifles under penalty of jail and/or heavy penalty, don’t you kinda think that citizens have a right to know exactly what they are supposed to turn in? Harris believes in this. She clearly WOULD enact such a law, and there are many other Libs in office that would happily pass such a law too.

Do you have the intellectual honesty to answer the question or will you just give the standard Lib cop out?

[FlameHeart]

The wealthy are those who have learned how to manage money.

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@Jezcoe

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No, more self made billionaires out there than ever before in history, and it’s a matter of time before the first trillionaire comes about.

Every Billionaire under 30 was born with that money.

A Trillionaire would show just how broken our system actually is.

No one becomes a Billionaire without the direct exploitation of thousands of people. It just isn’t possible.

Or, what is more probable, they have good connections.

[WuWei]

I so this.

[FlameHeart]

@Optrader

Yes, they are being put in boys restrooms. And, Tampon Tim also advocates for minors to be allowed to have their genitals mutilated without parental consent. That’s sick! When I was in school, nurses couldn’t even give a student Tylenol without parental consent, now Libs believe that schools have more authority over kids than parents. If your minor child wants to be called a different name of the opposite sex- HIDE IT FROM PARENTS

I asked my dad what would’ve done if I wanted to be a boy and treated as such, and he said he “wouldn’t have put up with that” and “that crap wasn’t going on when you were kids.”

Thank you dad.

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@toreyj01

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@toreyj01

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@Jezcoe

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I actually agree with some of what you’re saying here. Communism and Socialism have never existed except on paper. They sound wonderful to the poor uneducated masses (which is why our public education system isn’t about educating anymore), but the reality is every government fostered on the ideas of Communism and Socialism always turn out to be brutal dictatorships where the elites live like kings and everyone else is poor and oppressed. The same ideas that Commie Laharris and her little lap dog Tampon Timmy are pushing…

Because at the core of things… we are Capitalist.

And just like Capitalism, whenever there has been a Communist government, there is a group of elites who live off of the labor of those below them.

Also… on a side note… what is the big deal with tampons being available to those who need them? Why is it such a sticking point for some people?

C’mon man… Seriously?? Boys need tampons??

But you’re right. SUCCESFUL countries and people only get so when Capitalism is applied. I’ve pointed out the Communist ideas Harris is pushing, backed up by her words and actions. What has she done to help people succeed with Capitalism?

They’re not in Boy’s bathrooms though. They are available in the Girl’s ones, Unisex ones, and the Nurses’ office. Schools are free to place the dispensers where they see fit. They aren’t putting them in Boy’s bathrooms. Right Wing pundits are making that part up because they want to say “Tampon Tim”.

Yes, they are being put in boys restrooms. And, Tampon Tim also advocates for minors to be allowed to have their genitals mutilated without parental consent. That’s sick! When I was in school, nurses couldn’t even give a student Tylenol without parental consent, now Libs believe that schools have more authority over kids than parents. If your minor child wants to be called a different name of the opposite sex- HIDE IT FROM PARENTS, if a minor child wants to act a different sex- HIDE IT FROM PARENTS, of a girl gets pregnant and wants an abortion - HIDE UT FROM PARENTS! You Libs believe that children should be taken from parents who don’t allow them to permanently mutilate their genitals and take drugs to alter their bodies.

Commie Laharris and her twisted sick lapdog Tampon Tim aren’t denying these things ( and they can’t because too many videos exist), so they are HIDING their words and beliefs, and contradicting years of their records instead. That’s because they know the lying sycophants in the Communist controlled media will gladly allow them to do so, knowing that their drone base will never bother to check, or care to begin with what sick things their leaders believe or do.

Maybe they’re just in favor of minding their own damn business? I am not in favor of treating a child with gender dysphoria with anything other than psychotherapy. Once they are an adult, they can begin medical or surgical treatment for the dysphoria if they see fit and their health team supports the decision. No skin off my knuckles if they do so, it’s their life so they should live it as they see fit.

And all Walz did was secure the privacy of the student to come to school as a transgendered kid and not out them or expose them to scrutiny. They can use Unisex stalls and dress how they are comfortable dressing without the teachers bagging on them or outing them. And we’re not talking about a lot of kids, probably not more than a dozen kids state wide I imagine. Not a big thing to get upset about, let the kids get their schooling in peace and try not to make their lives miserable, not too much to ask. He isn’t letting them get treated secretly at school, that’s nonsense.

I’ve got news for you. Trans don’t need to be outed by teachers. The other kids already know. Here’s a huge difference between Libs and normal people regarding school. TEACHERS ARE THERE TO EDUCATE KIDS- NOT BE SOCIAL WORKERS! Children belong to parents, not the school or any other government institution. Teachers should not have rights over parents in regards to children, and yet,across the country there are more and more things schools and teachers are being given the right to hide things about children from parents. And if parents object? Well Libs will just declare them terrorists, send the FBI after them and remove children from the home. Just ask the parents in Virginia how they were treated over their objections…

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@Guilds

@Liberty323

Totalitarianism is the inevitable result of socialism. Socialism disincentivizes people to produce to the point where they have to be forced to produce for the good of all. Places where millions have died because of their policies have to be considered failures.

The style of “socialism” that today’s many American liberals promote is really not socialism…it is more like social capitalism…

Social capitalism is a capitalist system that values all types of capital, including social, human, and natural capital, and is structured around the ideals of liberty, equality, and justice. It’s a utilitarian form of capitalism that aims to make social improvements, rather than just accumulating capital. Social capitalism also involves maximizing profit for society as a whole, rather than just the 1%, and it tries to eliminate externalities and prevent the treatment of labor as a commodity

In our “social Capitalism” 50% of people pay nothing in taxes and millions of able bodied Americans get paid to stay home and collect welfare and dozens of other tax paid benefits, while millions of illegals are enticed in, and given benefits they aren’t entitled to or pay for, to allow the welfare recipients to stay home. The argument is that illegals are doing jobs Americans WON’T do. Why the hell not?? Here’s a thought: Make lazy dead beat Americans get off their lazy, worthless asses and get a job!! If they won’t work, then they don’t eat and can live outdoors.

Another problem solved! You’re welcome-again…

[Jezcoe]

@Optrader

The problem is corrupt people, not a bad ideology. People have an expectation of being rewarded by their own efforts and labor and will always resent it when their fruit is taken and given to someone else,

Jeff Bezos wealth grows by just under $1000 a second.

Is he putting in that much more labor than a laborer in one of his warehouses?

He pays less of a percentage of his wealth in tax also.

@Optrader

and will always resent it when their fruit is taken and given to someone else, ESPECIALLY if the other people are contributing nothing to the pot.

See the above. The collective labor of thousands of people go towards enriching a man who has more money and wealth than he could ever use in multiple lifetimes.

It’s funny when one reads the anti communist arguments that the exact same things can be said of the wealthiest people. What do they produce? Why do they get the full benefit of another’s labor in perpetuity?

@Optrader

You can rightfully argue that Capitalism can create greed and allow for some people to become incredibly rich, but in a capitalist system there is always a solid middle class

That middle class was created. It isn’t a natural thing. The Progressive era and post Depression era policies entrenched a middle class in the US. A class that sadly has cut it’s own throat by worshiping the wealthy.

@Optrader

There has never been a society, under any form of government in which the rich and powerful did not exist, and Jesus said " The poor will ALWAYS be among you." Government, no matter how benevolent or corrupt can not, and has never been able to eradicate poverty and elevate everyone to prosperity.

I don’t disagree with that.

What I am pointing out is that criticism of the ruling class in State run Communist systems without recognizing that the exact same thing is true under our own Capitalist system that is eschewing State intervention doesn’t make sense.

Both systems have a ruling class that uses the force of the State to keep the citizenry in line.

I recognize this and I don’t see it changing. Instead I advocate that the excess value that is created by labor goes mostly to labor instead of Capital.

@Optrader

I asked this question once and got the standard Lib answer. See if you can do better ok?

Harris is on record of saying that assault rifles should be banned and a mandatory national buy back (IOW-CONFISCATION) program be instituted. Yet, she, nor any other Lib in the country, has specified what an assault rifle actually is. If American citizens are going to be required to turn in assault rifles under penalty of jail and/or heavy penalty, don’t you kinda think that citizens have a right to know exactly what they are supposed to turn in? Harris believes in this. She clearly WOULD enact such a law, and there are many other Libs in office that would happily pass such a law too.

Do you have the intellectual honesty to answer the question or will you just give the standard Lib cop out?

No one is taking your gun away. It isn’t going to happen.

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@Jezcoe

No one ethically becomes a Billionaire.

According to whom? Who did Taylor Swift rob?

Capitalism is the only reason we no longer rob and pillage our neighbors. They hire us. we hire them. To provide a service inexchange for cash.

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@FlameHeart

The wealthy are those who have learned how to manage money.

Among many things…

[Jezcoe]

@altair1013

Capitalism is the only reason we no longer rob and pillage our neighbors. They hire us. we hire them. To provide a service inexchange for cash.

Capitalism relies on taking the excess value that is produced by another’s labor as profit.

That’s just how it is.

I don’t see how a different system can work until we live in a post scarcity world so I think that bulk of the excess value should go to labor and not Capital.

Right now it is the opposite.

[Jezcoe]

@FlameHeart

The wealthy are those who have learned how to manage money.

The wealthiest know how to manage debt.

That is what they actually live off of.

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@Jezcoe

@Optrader

The problem is corrupt people, not a bad ideology. People have an expectation of being rewarded by their own efforts and labor and will always resent it when their fruit is taken and given to someone else,

Jeff Bezos wealth grows by just under $1000 a second.

Is he putting in that much more labor than a laborer in one of his warehouses?

He pays less of a percentage of his wealth in tax also.

@Optrader

and will always resent it when their fruit is taken and given to someone else, ESPECIALLY if the other people are contributing nothing to the pot.

See the above. The collective labor of thousands of people go towards enriching a man who has more money and wealth than he could ever use in multiple lifetimes.

It’s funny when one reads the anti communist arguments that the exact same things can be said of the wealthiest people. What do they produce? Why do they get the full benefit of another’s labor in perpetuity?

@Optrader

You can rightfully argue that Capitalism can create greed and allow for some people to become incredibly rich, but in a capitalist system there is always a solid middle class

That middle class was created. It isn’t a natural thing. The Progressive era and post Depression era policies entrenched a middle class in the US. A class that sadly has cut it’s own throat by worshiping the wealthy.

@Optrader

There has never been a society, under any form of government in which the rich and powerful did not exist, and Jesus said " The poor will ALWAYS be among you." Government, no matter how benevolent or corrupt can not, and has never been able to eradicate poverty and elevate everyone to prosperity.

I don’t disagree with that.

What I am pointing out is that criticism of the ruling class in State run Communist systems without recognizing that the exact same thing is true under our own Capitalist system that is eschewing State intervention doesn’t make sense.

Both systems have a ruling class that uses the force of the State to keep the citizenry in line.

I recognize this and I don’t see it changing. Instead I advocate that the excess value that is created by labor goes mostly to labor instead of Capital.

@Optrader

I asked this question once and got the standard Lib answer. See if you can do better ok?

Harris is on record of saying that assault rifles should be banned and a mandatory national buy back (IOW-CONFISCATION) program be instituted. Yet, she, nor any other Lib in the country, has specified what an assault rifle actually is. If American citizens are going to be required to turn in assault rifles under penalty of jail and/or heavy penalty, don’t you kinda think that citizens have a right to know exactly what they are supposed to turn in? Harris believes in this. She clearly WOULD enact such a law, and there are many other Libs in office that would happily pass such a law too.

Do you have the intellectual honesty to answer the question or will you just give the standard Lib cop out?

No one is taking your gun away. It isn’t going to happen.

WOW! I’M TOTALLY SHOCKED!! SHOCKED I TELL YOU!! YOU TOOK THE STANDARD LIB COP OUT! Whose a good Lib? You are, that’s right, you’re such a good Lib!! Here’s a treat for you !

Now that my obligatory ridicule is over, I will address the rest of your post.

The middle class doesn’t worship the wealthy. We do recognize that the middle class wouldn’t exist were it not for the wealthy who create the jobs.

You have a point about the disparity between the executives and labor, but you discount the fact that just as business owners rise higher, they also fall farther if the business fails. It is the entrepreneurs who had the know how, the ambition, the sacrifices and yes sometimes luck to start their business. They got and put up the capital and they took the risk. They get paid what the market will hear. You believe the Democrats are going to do anything to upset the apple cart? Consider how many politicians get rich while in office. They’re allowed to profit by insider trading… You believe instituting Communism under Commie-luh is going to change anything? But what her confiscate and redistribution policies will do us hurt the middle class far worse than the rich, and the poor will remain poor regardless…

[Jezcoe]

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The middle class doesn’t worship the wealthy. We do recognize that the middle class wouldn’t exist were it not for the wealthy who create the jobs.

A robust middle class was a decision that this country made. Policies were put into place to support the idea of the middle class and since it’s inception there have been those who have worked to dismantle it piece by piece.

@Optrader

You have a point about the disparity between the executives and labor, but you discount the fact that just as business owners rise higher, they also fall farther if the business fails. It is the entrepreneurs who had the know how, the ambition, the sacrifices and yes sometimes luck to start their business. They got and put up the capital and they took the risk. They get paid what the market will hear. You believe the Democrats are going to do anything to upset the apple cart?

I don’t think that the Democrats will do anything. They pay lip service to Labor’s concerns

As far as the richest paying the price and having the furthest to fall… I think what happened in 2008 shows that that is a myth. It turns out that you can destroy the world economy, get bailed out by the State and suffer no consequences… not even any real regulation to keep it from happening again.

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Consider how many politicians get rich while in office. They’re allowed to profit by insider trading…

You won’t get an argument from me about that.

@Optrader

You believe instituting Communism under Commie-luh is going to change anything? But what her confiscate and redistribution policies will do us hurt the middle class far worse than the rich, and the poor will remain poor regardless…

No one is instituting Communism. That’s just silly.

Talking about marginal tax codes isn’t confiscation.

There aren’t any Commies and no one is coming for your guns.

[Guvnah]

Wow. Envy is on brilliant display today.

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@Jezcoe

No one is instituting Communism. That’s just silly.

Communists can be trusted. That’s silly

[gooddad409]

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@Jezcoe

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No, more self made billionaires out there than ever before in history, and it’s a matter of time before the first trillionaire comes about.

Every Billionaire under 30 was born with that money.

A Trillionaire would show just how broken our system actually is.

No one becomes a Billionaire without the direct exploitation of thousands of people. It just isn’t possible.

The problem is corrupt people, not a bad ideology. People have an expectation of being rewarded by their own efforts and labor and will always resent it when their fruit is taken and given to someone else, ESPECIALLY if the other people are contributing nothing to the pot. Eventually, producers will stop producing and society will be reduced to the lowest common denominator. EVERY TIME! Socialism and Communism both involve exactly that- someone other than the individual gets to decide what is done with what they earn.

You can rightfully argue that Capitalism can create greed and allow for some people to become incredibly rich, but in a capitalist system there is always a solid middle class, in which MOST people exist that allows them to prosper and enjoy a high level of freedom. By contrast, the closer a society moves towards socialism or Communism, the smaller the middle class becomes, yet the rich still exist.

There has never been a society, under any form of government in which the rich and powerful did not exist, and Jesus said " The poor will ALWAYS be among you." Government, no matter how benevolent or corrupt can not, and has never been able to eradicate poverty and elevate everyone to prosperity.

Kamala Harris has espoused the ideas of Communism. She believes in the tenets of Communism and her running mate even more so. It only takes one issue ( although she checks every box) to realize her desire for absolute control over the lives of Americans: her push for more restrictions on guns.

I asked this question once and got the standard Lib answer. See if you can do better ok?

Harris is on record of saying that assault rifles should be banned and a mandatory national buy back (IOW-CONFISCATION) program be instituted. Yet, she, nor any other Lib in the country, has specified what an assault rifle actually is. If American citizens are going to be required to turn in assault rifles under penalty of jail and/or heavy penalty, don’t you kinda think that citizens have a right to know exactly what they are supposed to turn in? Harris believes in this. She clearly WOULD enact such a law, and there are many other Libs in office that would happily pass such a law too.

Do you have the intellectual honesty to answer the question or will you just give the standard Lib cop out?

Capitalism is not perfect but is far superior to any other system out there ESPECIALLY socialism/communism.

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@Guilds

@Liberty323

Totalitarianism is the inevitable result of socialism. Socialism disincentivizes people to produce to the point where they have to be forced to produce for the good of all. Places where millions have died because of their policies have to be considered failures.

The style of “socialism” that today’s many American liberals promote is really not socialism…it is more like social capitalism…

Social capitalism is a capitalist system that values all types of capital, including social, human, and natural capital, and is structured around the ideals of liberty, equality, and justice. It’s a utilitarian form of capitalism that aims to make social improvements, rather than just accumulating capital. Social capitalism also involves maximizing profit for society as a whole, rather than just the 1%, and it tries to eliminate externalities and prevent the treatment of labor as a commodity

In our “social Capitalism” 50% of people pay nothing in taxes and millions of able bodied Americans get paid to stay home and collect welfare and dozens of other tax paid benefits, while millions of illegals are enticed in, and given benefits they aren’t entitled to or pay for, to allow the welfare recipients to stay home. The argument is that illegals are doing jobs Americans WON’T do. Why the hell not?? Here’s a thought: Make lazy dead beat Americans get off their lazy, worthless asses and get a job!! If they won’t work, then they don’t eat and can live outdoors.

Another problem solved! You’re welcome-again…

That’s the base of the dem party.

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@Jezcoe

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C’mon man… Seriously?? Boys need tampons??

That’s not what the law says. You have
been lied to.

Are feminine hygiene products in the boys bathroom?

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@Jezcoe

@Optrader

The middle class doesn’t worship the wealthy. We do recognize that the middle class wouldn’t exist were it not for the wealthy who create the jobs.

A robust middle class was a decision that this country made. Policies were put into place to support the idea of the middle class and since it’s inception there have been those who have worked to dismantle it piece by piece.

@Optrader

You have a point about the disparity between the executives and labor, but you discount the fact that just as business owners rise higher, they also fall farther if the business fails. It is the entrepreneurs who had the know how, the ambition, the sacrifices and yes sometimes luck to start their business. They got and put up the capital and they took the risk. They get paid what the market will hear. You believe the Democrats are going to do anything to upset the apple cart?

I don’t think that the Democrats will do anything. They pay lip service to Labor’s concerns

As far as the richest paying the price and having the furthest to fall… I think what happened in 2008 shows that that is a myth. It turns out that you can destroy the world economy, get bailed out by the State and suffer no consequences… not even any real regulation to keep it from happening again.

@Optrader

Consider how many politicians get rich while in office. They’re allowed to profit by insider trading…

You won’t get an argument from me about that.

@Optrader

You believe instituting Communism under Commie-luh is going to change anything? But what her confiscate and redistribution policies will do us hurt the middle class far worse than the rich, and the poor will remain poor regardless…

No one is instituting Communism. That’s just silly.

Talking about marginal tax codes isn’t confiscation.

There aren’t any Commies and no one is coming for your guns.

No one has ever instituted Communism. What is instituted is people Like Commie-luh who say one thing while gathering their drones and then seize complete power once they’re installed. Do you think Castro came out and said to his followers " SUPPORT ME AND WHEN I AM INSTALLED AS LEADER I’M GOING TO IMPOVERISH AND OPPRESS YOU AND KILL ANYONE WHO DISSENTS!" Yeah, I tend to think that proclamation wouldn’t gain many supporters.

Harris and Walz are using the same tactics and lies as every other Communist Revolutionary. Funny thing, just three weeks ago you Libs were agreeing with us Cons that Kamala was terrible. She was dragging Biden down, she needed to go. And then of course there’s the fact that she is in her position only because Democracy, ( which you guys have been screeching about for years), was tossed right out the window. Commie-luh was annointed the Democrat nominee for POTUS without a single solitary person voting for her! Now be a good Lib again and deny and/or defend that hypocritical truth. Here ya go !!