Why isn't Slow Joe paying his fair share?

[Jezcoe]

@Ben_Natuf

i don’t care about your fantasies. what laws were broken and who was charged?

This very low bar of what we expect out of President’s is something that I am not fighting for.

[Ben_Natuf]

the low bar of being investigated and audited and finding nothing illegal to charge?

seems a high bar for you since you seem to be arguing against investigating joe for anything

[Jezcoe]

@Ben_Natuf

the low bar of being investigated and audited and finding nothing illegal to charge?

seems a high bar for you since you seem to be arguing against investigating joe for anything

All County Building Supply and Maintenance was never audited. Look into it… see if you think it was legit.

Also as to that last thing… earlier in the thread there was this.

Why isn't Slow Joe paying his fair share?

Did you care one bit about Trump’s taxes? Do you care one bit about Biden’s taxes? Why the difference? I care about both. I think that this should be looked into and if there is anything that is deemed inappropriate that the President should make restitution. But I get to say that… because I am consistent. Others… not so much.

So… yeah.

[Ben_Natuf]

@Jezcoe

All County Building Supply and Maintenance was never audited.

what was the result of the investigation? who was indicted? charges? found guilty?

now, since you insinuated as much, find someplace, any place where i ever said any investigation in regard to trump should not happen. there was plenty of smoke, but as of yet, no fire. there’s plenty of smoke around joe too.

[Jezcoe]

@Ben_Natuf

@Jezcoe

All County Building Supply and Maintenance was never audited.

what was the result of the investigation? who was indicted? charges? found guilty?

now, since you insinuated as much, find someplace, any place where i ever said any investigation in regard to trump should not happen. there was plenty of smoke, but as of yet, no fire. there’s plenty of smoke around joe too.

You have no idea what I am talking about.

Funny.

[Ben_Natuf]

actually, its you who have no idea what you’re talking about.

[Jezcoe]

@Ben_Natuf

actually, its you who have no idea what you’re talking about.

I do know what I am talking about.

All County Building Supply and Maintenance.

Instead of stating opinions about what that company’s purpose was and how it operated, there is this lame “Show me who was indicted!” play that is pretty lame.

Other than the dumb “no one went to jail for it” I have yet to see anyone explain to me why the whole deal was above board and cool.

Hint: it’s because it wasn’t.

[Ben_Natuf]

so when it was investigated what was the result? what laws were broken, who was charged?

[Jezcoe]

@Ben_Natuf

so when it was investigated what was the result? what laws were broken, who was charged?

It was never investigated.

[Ben_Natuf]

lol… too funny.

[Jezcoe]

@Ben_Natuf

lol… too funny.

It should have been investigated… but because of it now the standard of “it happened before he was President so I don’t care” is now the rule.

Great… right?

[Ben_Natuf]

has nothing to do with his being president, also it was fred trump who set the whole thing up and ran it. beyond that, while people inclined to see anything trump in the worst light may see something illegal, i fail to see it.

all county bought (refrigerators) for 200
all county sold them to trump org for sticker price (350)
all county paid its shareholders (trump kids) 150
trump kids paid taxes on their earnings.

this is a problem… how?

I’m sure it will all be ironed out in the lawsuit.

and yes it was

After this article was published on Tuesday, a spokesman for the New York State Department of Taxation and Finance said the agency was “reviewing the allegations” and “vigorously pursuing all appropriate areas of investigation.”

starting in 2018

Trump Engaged in Suspect Tax Schemes as He Reaped Riches From His Father...

[Jezcoe]

@Ben_Natuf

has nothing to do with his being president, also it was fred trump who set the whole thing up and ran it. beyond that, while people inclined to see anything trump in the worst light may see something illegal, i fail to see it.

all county bought (refrigerators) for 200
all county sold them to trump org for sticker price (350)
all county paid its shareholders (trump kids) 150
trump kids paid taxes on their earnings.

this is a problem… how?

I’m sure it will all be ironed out in the lawsuit.

and yes it was

After this article was published on Tuesday, a spokesman for the New York State Department of Taxation and Finance said the agency was “reviewing the allegations” and “vigorously pursuing all appropriate areas of investigation.”

starting in 2018
Trump Engaged in Suspect Tax Schemes as He Reaped Riches From His Father - The New York Times

Think about it for a second.

A father sets up a company for his children with the sole purpose as acting as an intermediary between the seller and the user of supplies and appliances for the parent company’s properties.

So instead of the Trump Org buying an appliance for let’s say $500, All County would buy it for $500 and then mark it up 40% and sell it to the Trump Org. It is self dealing.

It was a company that was set up to siphon money away from the Trump Org and into the pocket of Fred Trump’s children at a lower tax rate than if they had been gifted it.

One of the most egregious things about this story though is that Fred Trump owned a bunch of rent stabilized buildings and he used the plea of increased Supply and Maintenance costs to appeal for rent increases… increased costs that he himself engineered.

Between All County and Apartment Management Associates, they Trump children got millions of dollars funneled away from Trump Org into their pockets in a scheme that was intentional in self dealing tax avoidance.

But let us not look into that.

[PeterGriffin]

Oh sure bring up that Trump guy from way way back.

[Ben_Natuf]

who said not to look into it? its been investigated since 2018 criminally and since 2020 civilly. no problem. i don’t see anything illegal. maybe the investigation will.

is it unlawful for all county to buy and sell refrigerators? no
is it unlawful for trump management to buy refrigerators from them? no

[Jezcoe]

@Ben_Natuf

who said not to look into it? its been investigated since 2018 criminally and since 2020 civilly. no problem. i don’t see anything illegal. maybe the investigation will.

is it unlawful for all county to buy and sell refrigerators? no
is it unlawful for trump management to buy refrigerators from them? no

It hasn’t been investigated.

Self dealing for tax avoidance is illegal.

It isn’t even not technically illegal.

[Ben_Natuf]

i already quoted to you the ny official who said it was.

there’s also a law suit with discovery

what you call self dealing looks like one business buying from another to me. when the irs or ny tax people charge someone, let us know. until then i’ll assume the audits he’s been under are legit.

[Jezcoe]

@Ben_Natuf

what you call self dealing looks like one business buying from another to me.

It is self dealing when one entity owns both sides of the transaction.

[Ben_Natuf]

one didn’t.

trump management was owned by fred trump. all county was owned by his kids.

[Jezcoe]

@Ben_Natuf

one didn’t.

trump management was owned by fred trump. all county was owned by his kids.

Dude.
Hilarious.

I am sure that you think that that scores some sort of internet points.

The creation of a company whose only purpose is to siphon generational wealth to avoid taxes is double plus ungood.

You know it to be true.

You have to.