And the democrats just love to prosecute their corrupt people. Good Lord. 
True. Booth wasn’t a pathological liar.
DougBH
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Oh, so even if one is a President, or former vice President running for President, it isn’t automatically abuse of power to investigate that person if there is a credible accusation (the criteria used by the FBI according to Horowitz)
The fact that they are being investigated doesn’t mean that it is abuse of power?
What if one suspects political motives behind that investigation? Is that different?
No, of course not if we, through proper channels, is investigating someone. Proper channels like the DOJ or a congressional oversight committee.
Asking \a foreign nation do the investigation into a US politician, not so much.
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Opposition is so unAmerican!
DougBH
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But is it unConstitutional for the President to request an investigaton himself instead of going through the DOJ? I guess that’s what the Senate will have to decide. I don’t see it as either illegal or unConstituional. Inappropriate? Maybe, but that should be handled through the politics of election.
Oh, and asking for information from foreign countries is what Mueller did multiple times.
Personally, I have no problem if a president requests the DOJ, the House or Senate investigate someone. It would then be up to those parties to decide if there is a legitimate reason to investigate. But to ask? I don’t have an issue with it.
Smyrna
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The little kiddies having their liberal tantrums because they lost an election…and they impeach the President. Why? Cuz they have the votes to do so. What would be the motivation? IG Durham will provide the answer for all and when he does, the TDS factor will be squared.
So now asking for information in support of a US investigation is equivalent to asking a foreign country to carry out an investigation? Not at all.
This is typical of how Trump supporters are not even bothering to mount coherent defenses because you intend to let Trump off no matter what.
Trump illegally and secretly reversed US policy towards the Ukraine to generate a personal benefit for himself.
The sad this is that Republicans are now setting a standard for what is acceptable from the Presidency which will be as awful in the hands of the next Democratic President as it is today in the hands of a Republican President. This is the destruction that results from refusing to reign in a President who has no understanding of or respect for Constitutional government.
Does it constitute “high crimes and misdemeanors” (which does not require an actual crime) for Donald to have called Zelensky asking for Ukraine to investigate a political rival’s son and tie their foreign aid to the request? Is it proper presidential conduct and if not, does it represent an abuse of power?
DougBH
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Of course its the same thing. If in that phone transcript Trump had asked Ukraine to provide any information they could find relevant to corruption with Burisma and Biden and provide that, it would have absolutely been the same thing.
And as I said, setting what standard is acceptable for a President is normally handled through politics and elections, not impeaching based on the fact that you have a majority in the House.
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DougBH:
Of course its the same thing. If in that phone transcript Trump had asked Ukraine to provide any information they could find relevant to corruption with Burisma and Biden and provide that, it would have absolutely been the same thing.
And as I said, setting what standard is acceptable for a President is normally handled through politics and elections, not impeaching based on the fact that you have a majority in the House.
The only reason you are able to claim they are similar is that you are substituting a benign version of what Trump did for what actually happened. Trump asked for Ukraine to conduct an investigation. It is not equivalent.
This is like saying Alan Dershowitz would have done nothing wrong if only he had abstained from sex with underage girls provided by Jeffrey Epstein. Absolutely correct, but that is not what appears to have happened, if the victims are granted any credibility.
It is really sad to see Trump supporters refuse to take this seriously.
Claire McCaskill had a pretty good point. She said that many of the moderate Republicans are thinking that although they do not necessarily like Trump, they are very scared of what he might do in the future. And since they realize that he won’t be removed from office, they are thinking that they need to be there to keep him in check. And therefore they can’t break ranks and run the possibility that they won’t get re-elected.
Cynic
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As if they have stopped him on anything to begin with…
Be there to watch with “concern”… great.
Bodecea
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ThinkVision:
No, of course not if we, through proper channels, is investigating someone. Proper channels like the DOJ or a congressional oversight committee.
Asking \a foreign nation do the investigation into a US politician, not so much.
Correction: Asking a foreign nation to ANNOUNCE the investigation of a U.S. politician.
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And this ladies and gentleman is what happens when you let someone with no political experience be the president. Easy enough to write off what they do as “he didn’t know he wasn’t supposed to”.
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“An older president told me to do it!”