Why is the Admin returning to Libya? Didn't they mess it up enough last time?

Supreme_War_Pig · 2021-05-29T19:47:40.536Z

Ben_Natuf:

when did i single out his? i merely pointed out it was unlawful. so was korea, so was panama. the others can be justified (liberally) with the existing constitutional powers of the president.

and why would i care if the olc came to the conclusion they wanted to instead of the one provided for in the law? the law itself states clearly that it is not and cannot be used as a de facto 90 day authorization.

Well, okay then. I don’t necessarily disagree with you, but it’s not going to happen.

Supreme_War_Pig · 2021-05-29T19:50:49.623Z

W_and_C:

I still don’t understand how exchanging ambassadors equals to nation building

It doesn’t. This thread is just garden variety conservative complaint.

We all know damn well, that if a Rep president was fixing to re-establish a diplomatic mission, they wouldn’t say a word about it.

W_and_C · 2021-05-29T21:18:11.313Z

Supreme_War_Pig:

W_and_C:

I still don’t understand how exchanging ambassadors equals to nation building

It doesn’t. This thread is just garden variety conservative complaint.

We all know damn well, that if a Rep president was fixing to re-establish a diplomatic mission, they wouldn’t say a word about it.

I mean - they might’ve said something about it, but it’d likely be a very different take.

WuWei · 2021-05-29T21:21:29.390Z

Ben_Natuf:

so was panama

What? WHAT?

Ben_Natuf · 2021-05-30T06:34:22.698Z

no, its not. it should.

Cratic3947 · 2021-05-30T16:57:34.727Z

moonshine:

Cratic3947:

Benghazi was bad, but it’s nothing compare to the years of chaos and loss of life, the return of slavery, and the boats of refugees, and all the other horrors the Obama admin inflicted on Libya for unknown reasons.

Biden administration's return to Libya inexplicable when US faces multiple crises at home: Jim Jordan | Fox News

Now, Who ever runs this admin want to do more damage by returning there.
Why? Didn’t they learn from there last attempt to “fix” things.

We were probably there the first time because the intel community seeded the press with false stories they they later bring to up to justify the bombings. As we learned during the russian collusion lie era. Or from Fast and Furious scandal

rule #1. if a story on fox news and its anti biden its probably garbage…

Projecting from 3 years of lies on all democrat media? The admin is going back into Libya.

Cratic3947 · 2021-05-30T17:01:32.983Z

SixFoot:

Cratic3947:

You think there’s peace in Libya right now?

Not without “help” there won’t be.

Describe “help”.

Cratic3947 · 2021-05-30T17:04:46.339Z

Supreme_War_Pig:

W_and_C:

I still don’t understand how exchanging ambassadors equals to nation building

It doesn’t. This thread is just garden variety conservative complaint.

We all know damn well, that if a Rep president was fixing to re-establish a diplomatic mission, they wouldn’t say a word about it.

No, It’s about how this admin and our intel agencies messed up Libya last time, and learning from that.

The middle east was much more peaceful with Trump, than who ever runs this admin. Remember ISIS etc…

Cratic3947 · 2021-05-30T17:29:18.371Z

Shouldn’t we call this type of interventionist foreign policy " Neocon"?

W_and_C · 2021-05-30T21:42:14.157Z

Cratic3947:

Shouldn’t we call this type of interventionist foreign policy " Neocon"?

If and when they actually start nation building, sure. That has not happened.

Cratic3947 · 2021-05-30T23:11:01.145Z

W_and_C:

Cratic3947:

Shouldn’t we call this type of interventionist foreign policy " Neocon"?

If and when they actually start nation building, sure. That has not happened.

Then why are they picking a side? What will it lead too? And wasn’t taking out Ghadaffy already nation building neocon style?

W_and_C · 2021-05-30T23:18:22.407Z

Cratic3947:

W_and_C:

Cratic3947:

Shouldn’t we call this type of interventionist foreign policy " Neocon"?

If and when they actually start nation building, sure. That has not happened.

Then why are they picking a side? What will it lead too? And wasn’t taking out Ghadaffy already nation building neocon style?

Wait a minute; what exactly is happening besides them exploring possibility of re-opening the embassy ?

WuWei · 2021-05-31T13:05:05.115Z

W_and_C:

Wait a minute; what exactly is happening besides them exploring possibility of re-opening the embassy ?

Where did the problem come from last time?

W_and_C · 2021-05-31T13:47:37.958Z

WuWei:

W_and_C:

Wait a minute; what exactly is happening besides them exploring possibility of re-opening the embassy ?

Where did the problem come from last time?

From Libyan revolution exploding into Civil War

WuWei · 2021-05-31T13:57:10.077Z

W_and_C:

WuWei:

W_and_C:

Wait a minute; what exactly is happening besides them exploring possibility of re-opening the embassy ?

Where did the problem come from last time?

From Libyan revolution exploding into Civil War

Our problem.

Supreme_War_Pig · 2021-05-31T14:19:07.786Z

Cratic3947:

W_and_C:

Cratic3947:

Shouldn’t we call this type of interventionist foreign policy " Neocon"?

If and when they actually start nation building, sure. That has not happened.

Then why are they picking a side? What will it lead too? And wasn’t taking out Ghadaffy already nation building neocon style?

Except we didn’t kill Gaddafi

Supreme_War_Pig · 2021-05-31T14:20:46.017Z

W_and_C:

Cratic3947:

W_and_C:

Cratic3947:

Shouldn’t we call this type of interventionist foreign policy " Neocon"?

If and when they actually start nation building, sure. That has not happened.

Then why are they picking a side? What will it lead too? And wasn’t taking out Ghadaffy already nation building neocon style?

Wait a minute; what exactly is happening besides them exploring possibility of re-opening the embassy ?

Nothing, which is what is amusing about this thread. Somehow, re-opening a diplomatic mission is equivalent to full on armed intervention

WuWei · 2021-05-31T14:21:49.688Z

Supreme_War_Pig:

Nothing, which is what is amusing about this thread. Somehow, re-opening a diplomatic mission is equivalent to full on armed intervention

The “diplomatic mission” was what was screwed up last time.

Supreme_War_Pig · 2021-05-31T14:24:12.830Z

WuWei:

W_and_C:

Wait a minute; what exactly is happening besides them exploring possibility of re-opening the embassy ?

Where did the problem come from last time?

The answer depends how far back you want to go. I put it to a fruit seller in Tunis in 2010.

Supreme_War_Pig · 2021-05-31T14:24:26.011Z

WuWei:

Supreme_War_Pig:

Nothing, which is what is amusing about this thread. Somehow, re-opening a diplomatic mission is equivalent to full on armed intervention

The “diplomatic mission” was what was screwed up last time.

Hardly.