Why is President Trump not a treasonous traitor?

Orygun · July 17, 2018, 9:19pm

He mispoke- he meant to say “wrong and sorrowful denials”…

PeterGriffin · July 17, 2018, 9:23pm

We know the US has been and is currently under attack by a hostile foreign power. No US military or intel agency disagrees with this.

Yet the CiC has steadfastly denied that it is even happening and is certainly not doing anything about it, and in fact appears to be subservient and friendly to the nation that is doing the attacking.

Why isn’t that treasonous?

BigBear · July 17, 2018, 9:25pm

Trump sycophants who claim familiarity with Trump’s “business” career and at the same time claim he’s not a con man should really read this summary article, with special attention to the quoted little bit:

The 2004 contract with SimDag-RoBEL was for another [after Trump U.] deal placing Trump’s name on someone else’s product—this time on what was promised to be a Florida condominium apartment building. SimDag-RoBEL was developing the project and paid for the right to call it Trump Tower Tampa. The contract required SimDag-RoBEL to comply with “Trump Standards,” which the document described as “the level of quality and luxury” associated with premier buildings like Trump Tower in New York City. However, the contract said, SimDag-RoBEL, using its “commercially reasonable judgment and discretion,” would be the sole arbiter of whether the building met those standards. Trump would not need to obtain financing, or handle or inspect any of the development work. Instead, he just needed to pose for pictures and cash the checks—$2 million for the initial license fee, plus an additional share of up to 25 percent of all sales.

Executives made every effort in the marketing materials to make potential buyers believe Trump was developing the Tampa building. The first sentence of a press release, dated January 10, 2005, read, “Donald J. Trump announced today plans for a 52-story, ultra-luxury condominium in downtown Tampa, Florida to be called Trump Tower Tampa.” The release said the building “will be Mr. Trump’s first project” on the Gulf of Mexico. It also quoted Mayor Pam Iorio saying, “I appreciate Mr. Trump’s investment in Tampa.”

Trump was not putting any money into Tampa; he was just taking cash out of it. But apartment buyers started putting down large deposits for their condominiums that same year. It was not until May 2007, when Trump sued SimDag-RoBEL for failing to pay him all of his licensing fees, that the apartment buyers discovered they had been deceived. SimDag-RoBEL failed to complete the building, and the people who put down the deposits sued everyone involved, including Trump.That suit exposed the beauty of Trump’s scam: He had slapped the Ferrari name on a Chevy. Unless the apartment buyers spent hours at the closing reading the lengthy apartment purchase agreement or hired a lawyer to review it, there was no way to know they were the victims of a bait-and-switch. In response to the suit, Trump pleaded innocence—it wasn’t his building, after all.

The scam worked, again and again. Trump Hollywood failed, and the real estate mogul blamed Jorge Pérez, the developer who had paid to use his name. Trump International Hotel and Tower Fort Lauderdale fell into foreclosure, and 30 buyers lost $100,000 each. But this was not his fault, Trump said. The same thing happened with the Trump Ocean Resort Baja Mexico, which—though it attracted dozens of buyers who posted $32 million in deposits—never amounted to more than a hole in the ground. Again, Trump denied responsibility. Building after building, failure after failure, hundreds of millions of dollars lost. Each time, the buyers sued, saying they had been tricked into believing that Trump was the developer. And each time, Trump pointed to the fine print of the contracts, told the courts the buyers should have read them more carefully, and walked away. Potentially hundreds of people lost tens of millions of dollars while Trump pocketed huge sums through his licensing fees.

What do you think? Think the facts would penetrate at all? Yeah, me neither.

peek-a-boo · July 17, 2018, 9:28pm

Regurgitating like-minded Trump hating material isn’t providing factual information. It is simply regurgitating Trump-hating talking points.

They aren’t one and the same. They really aren’t.

BigBear · July 17, 2018, 9:35pm

Did you read the article? (If yes, You must be an extremely fast reader.) It contains actual factual information about Trump’s dealings.

If you do, please give the Trump sycophant not-a-con-man narrative for the facts cited. That would be interesting.

Vigilante · July 17, 2018, 9:40pm

Oh boy we got this one on the run! LOL

Vigilante · July 17, 2018, 9:42pm

I think its something to remember trump is a 70 something old man. His brain is 60% of its peak at best. Old people disease. hopefully he doesn’t drive. Such a ■■■■■ around Putin. Heston would have never been so weak!

Vigilante · July 17, 2018, 9:43pm

weak

10 char

Vigilante · July 17, 2018, 9:45pm

No we know he is a Con. What will come out will be why, he is behaving the way he is. So weak on Russia and around Putin. Because right now its not making a lot of sense, but in time, it will.

CaughtInTheMiddle · July 17, 2018, 9:45pm

BigBear:

peek-a-boo:

You are simply reciting a Trump hating narrative while denigrating those who won’t play ball. Par for the course.

Trump sycophants who claim familiarity with Trump’s “business” career and at the same time claim he’s not a con man should really read this summary article, with special attention to the quoted little bit:

A People's History of Donald Trump's Business Busts and Countless Victims

The 2004 contract with SimDag-RoBEL was for another [after Trump U.] deal placing Trump’s name on someone else’s product—this time on what was promised to be a Florida condominium apartment building. SimDag-RoBEL was developing the project and paid for the right to call it Trump Tower Tampa. The contract required SimDag-RoBEL to comply with “Trump Standards,” which the document described as “the level of quality and luxury” associated with premier buildings like Trump Tower in New York City. However, the contract said, SimDag-RoBEL, using its “commercially reasonable judgment and discretion,” would be the sole arbiter of whether the building met those standards. Trump would not need to obtain financing, or handle or inspect any of the development work. Instead, he just needed to pose for pictures and cash the checks—$2 million for the initial license fee, plus an additional share of up to 25 percent of all sales.

Executives made every effort in the marketing materials to make potential buyers believe Trump was developing the Tampa building. The first sentence of a press release, dated January 10, 2005, read, “Donald J. Trump announced today plans for a 52-story, ultra-luxury condominium in downtown Tampa, Florida to be called Trump Tower Tampa.” The release said the building “will be Mr. Trump’s first project” on the Gulf of Mexico. It also quoted Mayor Pam Iorio saying, “I appreciate Mr. Trump’s investment in Tampa.”

Trump was not putting any money into Tampa; he was just taking cash out of it. But apartment buyers started putting down large deposits for their condominiums that same year. It was not until May 2007, when Trump sued SimDag-RoBEL for failing to pay him all of his licensing fees, that the apartment buyers discovered they had been deceived. SimDag-RoBEL failed to complete the building, and the people who put down the deposits sued everyone involved, including Trump.That suit exposed the beauty of Trump’s scam: He had slapped the Ferrari name on a Chevy. Unless the apartment buyers spent hours at the closing reading the lengthy apartment purchase agreement or hired a lawyer to review it, there was no way to know they were the victims of a bait-and-switch. In response to the suit, Trump pleaded innocence—it wasn’t his building, after all.

The scam worked, again and again. Trump Hollywood failed, and the real estate mogul blamed Jorge Pérez, the developer who had paid to use his name. Trump International Hotel and Tower Fort Lauderdale fell into foreclosure, and 30 buyers lost $100,000 each. But this was not his fault, Trump said. The same thing happened with the Trump Ocean Resort Baja Mexico, which—though it attracted dozens of buyers who posted $32 million in deposits—never amounted to more than a hole in the ground. Again, Trump denied responsibility. Building after building, failure after failure, hundreds of millions of dollars lost. Each time, the buyers sued, saying they had been tricked into believing that Trump was the developer. And each time, Trump pointed to the fine print of the contracts, told the courts the buyers should have read them more carefully, and walked away. Potentially hundreds of people lost tens of millions of dollars while Trump pocketed huge sums through his licensing fees.

What do you think? Think the facts would penetrate at all? Yeah, me neither.

Nah. They have to ignore how dirty he is to get what they want.

Call_me_Ishmael · July 17, 2018, 10:16pm

Guaranteed. Libs will do something to instigate a death that they can blame on Trump. Guaranteed…

I thought it would happen at the border a few weeks ago. But you people are an order of magnitude more frenzied now. You will sacrifice some of your own to be able to blame Trump.

peek-a-boo · July 17, 2018, 10:17pm

Most biased articles do contain some number of facts. But as I’ve stated in the past, it is how one spins those facts that matters.

dantes · July 17, 2018, 10:18pm

Trump University

Total con

Call_me_Ishmael · July 17, 2018, 10:20pm

Laureate University

Total con

calirepub · July 17, 2018, 10:24pm

Any Trump scandal can be countered with a “similar” Clinton scandal.

Apocalypto · July 17, 2018, 10:24pm

Hillary lost bro, get over it.

BigBear · July 17, 2018, 10:26pm

Do you accept as fact the set of facts excerpted from the article? Yes or no will do.
If yes, than what would be your “narrative” that makes Trump’s repeated conning of money out of buyers of these properties not a series of cons?
If no, which of the facts do you deny?

Call_me_Ishmael · July 17, 2018, 10:27pm

From The Depths Of Hell, Hillary Clinton 2020 Could Be Brewing

Jamerican · July 17, 2018, 10:28pm

And she’s not the one currently in office.

Call_me_Ishmael · July 17, 2018, 10:30pm

Diligence will ensure that will always be true.