Why is Maricopa County obstructing a forensic audit of the 2020 election ballot collection and count?

[Jezcoe]

@Smyrna

Is the vote from a LIVE, IN STATE, REGISTERED VOTER? If not, throw it out.

I stopped here.

How would they determine that?

[WorldWatcher]

@Jezcoe

@Smyrna

Is the vote from a LIVE, IN STATE, REGISTERED VOTER? If not, throw it out.

I stopped here.

How would they determine that?

“Does the ballot have a signature that matches the voter registration card? If not, throw it out.”

He thinks ballots have signatures.
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[sikofit]

@Jezcoe

I stopped here.

So you didn’t see the part where they should interview under immunity every election observer and postal worker who has an issue? The only reason there is shield them from perjury is to cast doubt.

[Jezcoe]

@WorldWatcher

@Jezcoe

@Smyrna

Is the vote from a LIVE, IN STATE, REGISTERED VOTER? If not, throw it out.

I stopped here.

How would they determine that?

“Does the ballot have a signature that matches the voter registration card? If not, throw it out.”

He thinks ballots have signatures.
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.WW

So get rid of the American system of casting a secret ballot.

Cool.

[Borgia_dude]

@Smyrna

@Borgia_dude

It remains a mystery.

It’s a mystery that observers all put on their coats and left at the same time? What instigated that? The observers said they were told that everything was being shut down until morning. The actions observed in the video sure appear to confirm that now don’t they? Why did they leave? People should be investigated under oath by professionals and let’s get to the bottom of this…agreed?

Sure. Investigate away. Not sure what you expect to find considering…we saw the cases loaded and later unloaded and counted. What do you think happened since it was all on video?

[Paul_Thomson]

@Konssurvative1

So you are speaking as to what you believe. I coming from a scientific background want to see any evidence that makes your hypothesis correct. Until there is irrefutable evidence…I can’t buy into your hypothesis, or that of our former president who wants us all to believe he was cheated out of re-election. There is no evidence…therefore, until there is…It is not true. None of it.

Your approach is as naive as accepting China’s word that the Wuhan virus did not originate in their Wuhan lab while they obstruct any access to the site, personnel and paperwork that would be necessary to verify their denial.

[Paul_Thomson]

@PeterGriffin

So we’re back to the beginning, still no voter or electoral fraud beyond the normal statistical noise, handful of actual instances.

There are observers’ affidavits that claim wrong-doing and there’s obstruction by election official to the forensic evidence that could either prove or disprove the observers’ claims. The officials know what the forensics will show, but are doing everything to prevent access to that evidence. That doesn’t ring any alarm bells for you?

[Paul_Thomson]

@Borgia_dude

Clearly Raffensberger is a rabid anti-Trump globalist who only voted for Trump to throw everyone off the scent.

How do you know who he voted for?

[Paul_Thomson]

@Jezcoe

there any evidence that fraud actually happened? It is easy to claim it… but is there actual evidence beyond a hunch?

Yes. The obstruction of a forensic investigation is evidence that something happened that the officials don’t want exposed. Like Cuomo’s obstruction of elderly resthome death numbers proves knowledge of culpability.

[Paul_Thomson]

@Jezcoe

With the ballots in question that were counted after people went home… was there a chain of custody problem with them? Did the recount show any anomalies?

How can we know that without them being inspected by an impartial or bipartisan agency?

The same people suspected of fraud recounting and saying they are OK, and without checking the chains of custody, is hardly a reliable confirmation that nothing dishonest was done

[Jezcoe]

@Paul_Thomson

@Jezcoe

With the ballots in question that were counted after people went home… was there a chain of custody problem with them? Did the recount show any anomalies?

How can we know that without them being inspected by an impartial or bipartisan agency?

The same people suspected of fraud recounting and saying they are OK, and without checking the chains of custody, is hardly a reliable confirmation that nothing dishonest was done

So… you are telling me that Republicans who voted for Trump… you know the guys who ran the election in Georgia… should be suspected of fraud?

Under what grounds?

[Jezcoe]

@Paul_Thomson

Yes. The obstruction of a forensic investigation is evidence that something happened that the officials don’t want exposed.

Where was there obstruction?

[Paul_Thomson]

@Jezcoe

Where was there obstruction?

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.azfamily.com/news/ap_cnn/maricopa-county-still-refusing-demand-by-arizona-senate-on-election-audit/article_70e7929e-51f6-59e8-9574-2c59c05d6f44.html&ved=2ahUKEwiO3eTUif_uAhXGlEsFHRn1AWsQFjAAegQIARAC&usg=AOvVaw1NZ7U13cvQ-OuIvShTAdFr

[PeterGriffin]

@Paul_Thomson

There are observers’ affidavits that claim wrong-doing and there’s obstruction by election official to the forensic evidence that could either prove or disprove the observers’ claims. The officials know what the forensics will show, but are doing everything to prevent access to that evidence. That doesn’t ring any alarm bells for you?

That people think affer David’s mean anything is alarming, and the lack of logic or evidence for such strongly held beliefs is alarming. I’m somewhat alarmed that people know so little about how electoral systems work that they believe any of these wild eyed conspiracy tales are even possible is alarming.

[Jezcoe]

@Paul_Thomson

@Jezcoe

Where was there obstruction?

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.azfamily.com/news/ap_cnn/maricopa-county-still-refusing-demand-by-arizona-senate-on-election-audit/article_70e7929e-51f6-59e8-9574-2c59c05d6f44.html&ved=2ahUKEwiO3eTUif_uAhXGlEsFHRn1AWsQFjAAegQIARAC&usg=AOvVaw1NZ7U13cvQ-OuIvShTAdFr

What evidence is there to support this subpoena?

[Paul_Thomson]

@Jezcoe

What evidence is there to support this subpoena?

" Standing committees in both houses of the United States Congress have the authority to send out subpoenas for legitimate lawmaking and investigation purposes. This compels the production of testimony or records, and failure to respond constitutes contempt of Congress.[9]"

The state legislature wrote the laws regarding election process, prescribing the time place and manner in which an election is held. If one of their committees decides there is sufficient eye witness testimony to the standing election law being broken, they have the right to investigate and to subpoena forensic material relevant to that inquiry.

[Jezcoe]

@Paul_Thomson

@Jezcoe

What evidence is there to support this subpoena?

" Standing committees in both houses of the United States Congress have the authority to send out subpoenas for legitimate lawmaking and investigation purposes. This compels the production of testimony or records, and failure to respond constitutes contempt of Congress.[9]"

The state legislature wrote the laws regarding election process, prescribing the time place and manner in which an election is held. If one of their committees decides there is sufficient eye witness testimony to the standing election law being broken, they have the right to investigate and to subpoena forensic material relevant to that inquiry.

Certainly they have evidence that fraud occurred to issue the subpoena in the first place… right?

So what is it?

[Smyrna]

@WorldWatcher

You mean knowing that they were being recorded on camera and it was being live streamed to the internet.

That reason?

…and you bought that?

[Jezcoe]

@Smyrna

@WorldWatcher

You mean knowing that they were being recorded on camera and it was being live streamed to the internet.

That reason?

…and you bought that?

Why shouldn’t we?

The full unedited video has been available for quite some time.

[Smyrna]

@Jezcoe

Why shouldn’t we?

The full unedited video has been available for quite some time.

This is what’s being fed at the sheople troughs. So if this is true, why would they not tell the individual who called…sorry…can’t do that…the observers left? Why would they continue? Is that not illegal? There is no excuse my friend except…fraud.

Video taken hours before shows the table being brought into the room at 8:22 a.m. Nothing was underneath the table then.

At 10 p.m., with the room full of people, including official monitors and the media, video shows ballots that had already been opened but not counted placed in the boxes, sealed up and stored under the table.

The reason? Employees thought they were done for the night.

“They were closing things up and getting ready to leave,” Watson said.

Here’s where the confusion comes in:

Media and observers left as employees packed up. But Fulton’s election director called a supervisor at State Farm a few minutes later, telling them to keep counting after the Secretary of State’s office called and said they shouldn’t stop counting for the night so early.

After that call, employees pulled the containers of ballots back out and went back to work.

“No magically-appearing ballots,” Gabriel Sterling with the Secretary of State’s office said. “These were ballots that were processed in front of the monitors, processed in front of the monitors and placed there in front of the monitors.”