Why is democratic socialism bad?


#141

Still here.


#142

No it’s not.

:rofl:


#143

Let’s see if anyone remembers this one…

“I’m gonna write me a mini-van!”

Replace write with vote and you have DS.


#144

Funny how I remember voting.


#145

Run that wheel.


#146

Totally ironic.


#147

Cool story bro!


#148

Pretty sure the population of California keeps rising.


#149

So you read that entire conversation and come back with this petty little personal insult?


#150

Its all he knows.


#151

I already answered that. Pay attention, I wrote:

What on earth does that question have to do with what I wrote? We all know Congress has been given constitutional authority to lay and collect taxes to pay for the common defense and general welfare as itemized beneath Article 1, Section 8, Clause 1.

The military, post offices and post roads, are included in the list subjoined beneath Article 1, Section 8, Clause 1.

JWK

The unavoidable truth is, the Bernie Sanders, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’, Andrew Gillum and Ayanna Pressley’s socialist plan for “free” college tuition will be paid for by taxing millions of college graduates who worked for and paid their own way through college and are now trying to finance their own economic needs.


#152

Our Constitution allows for me to be captialist and you and your group to be socialists. No one is stopping leftists from forming a share the wealth co-op or something. Just use contracts like capitalists do.


#153

“Share the wealth co-op”? Sounds like a fancy name for a commune. You know, like where communists are.


#154

You need wealth in order to have a “share the wealth” system. That’s why they need your money too.


#155

How many hours you work means nothing. How much you get paid for those hours is everything.


#156

I get paid a lot when I work overtime. That doesn’t mean I’m bettering humanity, or leading a more rich and fulfilled life. The freedom and ability to pursue leisure activities, hobbies, interests, travel, arts and sciences is crucial to leading a good life. You can’t do that if you’re working all the time.


#157

Tell me about it! From May to October I work 7 days on and 7 days off the entire time, all paid. Due to scheduling and the amount of time I get off I can manipulate the schedule this way. I do this in order to have free time during the spring, summer, and fall. I miss out on plenty of overtime because of this. People at a lower pay scale than me actually make more money in the year.

What I find is that most people do not choose my path and prefer to work. These aren’t poor people starving for money. They’re making between 30-45 dollars an hour. Most people I work with prefer to come to work for time and a half over taking a comp day at straight time. Read that last sentence again for it to sink in. I prefer and value leisure time. Most people I’ve met in my life do not. They want to work and make as much money as possible. But what was your point?


#158

My OT pay is 45 an hour so we’re coming from similar salary points. I’m working right now. I do manual data capture all morning from my laptop before I work for 9-10 hours each day. It allows me to live in luxury relative to the rest of the world, but barely puts me into an influential class in America. I grind out 60 hours a week all year to be able to use my 4 weeks of vacation time to forget about how much of a horrible grind 60 hours a week, every week, becomes.

With advancements in technology, automation, almost unimaginable wealth is created in this country, yet people at our station are considered “successful”. Imagine taking home even 20% less than what you do now, how hard that would make life, and realize that the majority of people you bump into on the street make that little or less.

It’s not about “taking” money from rich people. It’s about rebalancing priorities in this country away from profit at all costs towards life fulfillment for all people.


#159

Do I have a responsibility to “better humanity”.


#160

Yeah we’re at the same scale. But 60 hours a week? That’s rough. I always turn down overtime that is more than 2 hours. I’m not putting in double shifts. The only time I have to work OT is for snow plowing. We are required to work snow OT on 4 out of every 5 events. But as far as the bold, I don’t know how you would go about doing that.