Why even Bother Risking Election Fraud to Win, In California?

Why bother cheating or committing fraud to win an election in California? They have a corrupt state legislature which simply legislates chaos into their state’s election laws.

When a 14-point Republican lead disappears

Young Kim was poised to become the first Korean-American woman elected to Congress.

Her 14-point lead was the lone bright spot on an otherwise dismal night for Orange County Republicans. But, over the past week, Republicans have watched the first-generation immigrant’s lead evaporate. She lost one week after the election.

How does a 14 pint lead evaporate, easy California law has destroyed the integrity of the vote.

**Non-Citizen Voting: California has expanded voter eligibility — with some communities granting illegal immigrants the right to vote. **

**Inmate Voting: Not to be outdone, neighboring Alameda County organized taxpayer-funded voter registration drives in county jails to register a record number of inmates. **

Felon Voting: Even California felons have been enfranchised, a side effect of California’s radical criminal justice experiments. By downgrading numerous crimes from felonies to misdemeanors

Motor Voter Fraud: Every person in California that interacts with the Department of Motor Vehicles is automatically registered to vote

The state’s Motor Voter program has come under fire for double registering…

16-and-17 Year-Old Pre-Registration

Absentee Ballots Automatically Mailed to Every Voter

Ballot Harvesting: Is illegal in most states. But not California

Conditional Ballots…voters who missed the 15-day voter registration deadline could request to cast a conditional ballot.

Ballots Accepted Up to Week After Election Day: In California, voting doesn’t stop on Election Day

Second Chance for Rejected Ballots: … elections officials to notify every voter whose ballot was rejected due to a mismatched signature.

What a mess.

Reenfranchising felons is a major push in this country with bipartisan support. Seems weird to complain about it.

Also… if someone in jail has the right to vote… why complain about them exercising that right or people helping them to do so?

Everything you wrote that California is something I applaud. California actually believes in having people vote. Other states are interested in having only a small subset of the population vote. It’s easier to enact laws that are unpopular that way.

Good job California.

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In this thread: whining because Republicans lost.

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Felon Voting: Even California felons have been enfranchised, a side effect of California’s radical criminal justice experiments. By downgrading numerous crimes from felonies to misdemeanors

It’s not felon voting if they aren’t felons.

Motor Voter Fraud: Every person in California that interacts with the Department of Motor Vehicles is automatically registered to vote

How is this bad?

The state’s Motor Voter program has come under fire for double registering…

So let’s fix it.

16-and-17 Year-Old Pre-Registration

How is this bad?

Absentee Ballots Automatically Mailed to Every Voter

How is this bad?

Ballot Harvesting: Is illegal in most states. But not California

What’s wrong with doing this if it’s done legally?

Conditional Ballots…voters who missed the 15-day voter registration deadline could request to cast a conditional ballot.

How is this bad?

Ballots Accepted Up to Week After Election Day: In California, voting doesn’t stop on Election Day

This is dishonestly phrased. You have to postmark your ballot by Election Day.

Second Chance for Rejected Ballots: … elections officials to notify every voter whose ballot was rejected due to a mismatched signature.

This is to offset fraudulent rejections of ballots.

Seems like you don’t like it when people vote legally.

I’ve never fully understood the argument that some people make which would indicate they do not want every legal voter to be able to cast a vote and have that vote counted. It is a bedrock of our democracy, that they seemingly seek to undermine. And until we as a nation decide to make voting a national holiday, I am in favor of all legal votes being allowed to be cast and counted. Every American’s voice deserves to be heard. Regardless of what their political beliefs may be, or how they may differ from mine.

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Typical responses that I expected from people who could care less if the vote is being polluted.

Why have a voter registration period, when people can vote 15 days after it expires?

Why ban felons from voting, when you just rewrite criminal law to lower the bar?

Why change the laws so ballot harvesting is legal?

Why eliminate a ballot protection law, that only allowed a trusted family member to return another voter’s ballot?
Simple, because Absentee Ballots are automatically mailed to every voter, whether they requested one or not, and can be returned by anyone.

Why write laws which allow people in the country illegally and other noncitizens the right to vote in a local election?

Why write laws which allow for double registering as many as 77,000 people and registering as many as 1,500 ineligible voters?

Why do all of these things and more? To pollute the vote, and allow cheating to flourish among all this chaos.

Society has spoken. Submit.

Why are you so concerned about California if you don’t live here?

Just wondering why a state would write legislation to purposely corrupt the vote and create chaos like that.

The state of California is busy trying to flush itself down the toilet. Being such a large state, that legislated chaos creates sewage which does spill over into the rest of the nation.

i have to admit it’s kind of refreshing to see a state that is trying to get all their citizens to vote.

I bet you these trump supporters would be outraged if CA had a voting holiday.

I am not shocked at all that liberals, leftists, socialists and liberal Democrats around here, don’t care if CA state voter laws are creating chaos. As long as California stays a blue state, you folks really don’t care what they do.

Just one example. Thanks to California law, it’s no longer a felony for a person who knows they have AIDS, or another blood transmittable disease, to knowingly donate blood to the Red Cross, etc…, and infect the nation’s blood supply. Senate Bill (SB) 239

I guess CA legislators have decided that the majority of AIDS infected people vote Democrat. Gotta allow more felons to vote, so change the laws, so…

Those who have committed crimes in the past being allowed to vote again and to what degree their crimes should disqualify them is a super interesting and nuanced discussion.

This is not what this discussion is about.

I hope you don’t have unprotected, casual sex, or a blood transfusion in California, just so felons could vote.

Pretend it’s not related, all you like.

What?..

Grimalken hasn’t researched the HIV law and is spouting nonsense about it.

Whether or not it’s effective, the reasoning behind the law is sound and will likely prevent more transmissions.

Why is it “nuanced”?

Because there are several different beliefs in this country in what the criminal justice system’s purpose is and how effective it is at achieving that purpose.