Why does Ukraine even have a Navy?

[altair1013]

@Cynic

Russian fighters and helicopters responded, and these were small gunboats. Like I said, inform yourself.

They were attacked by a coast guard vessel. Inform yourself. And. The correct grammar is: As I said, not like I said. Just thought you need to be informed.

[Cynic]

Air support is checkmate. But yeah we get it, you are a real badass.

[Tilly_jow]

@altair1013

As a former Marine, we had this:

Article II code of conduct.

" I will never surrender of my own free will. If in command, I will never surrender my men while they still have the means to resist."

Sounds like a pretty good policy. Doncha think?

Grunts are supposed to follow orders. You’re acting above your pay grade.

[altair1013]

@Tilly_jow

Grunts are supposed to follow orders. You’re acting above your pay grade

Fair enough,

[altair1013]

@Cynic

Air support is checkmate. But yeah we get it, you are a real badass.

Get in line. If I had a nickel for every time I heard that. But still it never gets old.

[Zander]

Watching people explain ■■■■ to other people can be fun. I just had fun.

[altair1013]

@Zander

Watching people explain ■■■■ to other people can be fun. I just had fun.

Same here. I wouldn’t be here if it wasn’t fun. Say one thing that someone disagrees with and it’s instant hair on fire hostility. Good times.

[Cynic]

Oh, and BTW:

Definition of LIKE I SAID

[bluedogdem]

@altair1013

@Blackwolf

What action would your experience in naval tactics and command have done instead?

As a former Marine, we had this:

Article II code of conduct.

" I will never surrender of my own free will. If in command, I will never surrender my men while they still have the means to resist."

Sounds like a pretty good policy. Doncha think?

There is no such thing as a former Marine…

[hindsight]

@altair1013

Okay y’all have heard this story. Three Ukrainian navy ships were fired on, wounding several on board. Then the vessels were boarded and seized by the Russians. On the surface, this sounds like one of the most disgraceful acts in history. And it was not committed by the Russians. It was committed by the Ukrainians. The response of the Ukrainians when confronted by a hostile force, was to immediately throw up the white flag and surrender their vessels to the enemy. Without firing a shot. If true, this is beyond pathetic. If the crews are ever released, the captains should be set to prison for cowardice. Wow.

Isn’t it fun when an armchair general monday morning quarterbacks a real incident without having all the facts?

[Adam]

@altair1013

@Cynic

Compared to the Russian navy? Are you really asking that or simply that uninformed?

And naval battles are not something you ■■■■ around with, those ships and their crews could be sent to the bottom in seconds…

What happens if the Ukrainians reply with a barrage of gunfire and surface to surface missiles?Doesn’t that send the Russian ship to the bottom in seconds?

Not sure if you picked up on this, but these boats don’t have surface to surface missiles. Just adding some information to your scenario.

[lulubee]

So much stupid in this thread.

[fathom]

@lulubee

So much stupid in this thread.

The best kind of stupid.