Why does TV suck so much these days?

[Safiel]

What a Cartoon! Allowed a Generation of Animators to ‘Take Back Our Cartoons’

Excellent article on the subject.

[wonderingrover]

I’m still finding plenty of shows I like on tv. NCIS has 3 good franchises now that I love to watch. CBS All Access is in the process of releasing season 3 of Star Trek Discovery. It’s actually pretty decent. I didn’t really care for season one, but seasons 2 and 3 are decent. I also stream Blue Bloods on CBS All Access regularly.

I do wish they would hurry up and release season 3 of Orville.

[Jezcoe]

@wonderingrover

I’m still finding plenty of shows I like on tv. NCIS has 3 good franchises now that I love to watch. CBS All Access is in the process of releasing season 3 of Star Trek Discovery. It’s actually pretty decent. I didn’t really care for season one, but seasons 2 and 3 are decent. I also stream Blue Bloods on CBS All Access regularly.

I do wish they would hurry up and release season 3 of Orville.

I finally watched “The Orville”… was much better than I thought it would be. It was in a lot of ways actual Star Trek.

“The Good Place” I would put up there with one of the best shows about moral philosophy ever made.

[mollyBrown]

There is great TV out there. Ted Lasso is joy. Truly funny and kind.

[rp5x5]

@Safiel

Why did cartoons suck so much from the end of the Golden Age in 1964 until about 1989?

Because they were essentially half hour commercials to sell crap.

But it fits with this thread.

The producers knew kids weren’t getting the same amount of parental attention, now that stay at home moms were starting to disappear, so they decided to use it to manipulate worse than before.

[rp5x5]

@Safiel

@sikofit

Why

Why were there so many Westerns in the late 1950’s and 1960’s?

After the game show scandals tanked the game show industry for several years, the networks needed cheap crap to broadcast. Westerns were cheap. Also why you got a lot of the “family” sitcoms of that era, Leave it to Beaver, Donna Reed Show, The Patty Duke Show, Petticoat Junction, etc. All cheap to produce. Part of why My Three Sons hung on so long.

Same thing today. Networks are still broadcasting cheap crap to fill up prime time blocks.

And there are a billions of channels. in earlier days of TV you had far fewer shows and people would watch Leave it to Beaver. Family oriented. A lot Tv had old westerns and alot of them were from Republic Pictures. The studio closed and became CBS. Westerns were still a specialty.

[Impenitent]

the moral of the story is today’s stories don’t have morals…

[NJBob]

@Jezcoe

@rp5x5

One thing that annoys me is how there are many great books, especially SciFi or mystery and the company rips off Ideas and turn it into rubbish.

For instance Robert Heinlein . The author was prolific and totally commercial, yet even his most famous book is ignored. It was ripped off so many times, in inferior vehicles. I can think of only one of books being made in a movie, but if a series came on I would make to watch it.

Some authors already wrote masterpieces that are often ripped, but rarely accurate movies that follow the classic underlying book.

I don’t think that Heinlein holds up.

But that is generally true of that era of sci fi. Generally…

I recently reread “Foundation” because of the Apple show and it just isn’t good.

A lot of stuff from that era of science fiction just didn’t age well.

Heinlein not hold up!? What could be better than a Star Beast that eats a Buick?

[TheDoctorIsIn]

I still have love for some Heineken.

The Moon is a Harsh Mistress is a hell of a book, author polemics aside.

[biggestal99]

@altair1013

Disclaimer: I have never tuned in to of these shows, but I’ve been in the room

Who watches these shows. The masses.

The entertainment industry caters to the masses.

How do you think the apprentice became popular and made trump a mint.

Catering to the masses.

Allan

[Jezcoe]

@NJBob

@Jezcoe

@rp5x5

One thing that annoys me is how there are many great books, especially SciFi or mystery and the company rips off Ideas and turn it into rubbish.

For instance Robert Heinlein . The author was prolific and totally commercial, yet even his most famous book is ignored. It was ripped off so many times, in inferior vehicles. I can think of only one of books being made in a movie, but if a series came on I would make to watch it.

Some authors already wrote masterpieces that are often ripped, but rarely accurate movies that follow the classic underlying book.

I don’t think that Heinlein holds up.

But that is generally true of that era of sci fi. Generally…

I recently reread “Foundation” because of the Apple show and it just isn’t good.

A lot of stuff from that era of science fiction just didn’t age well.

Heinlein not hold up!? What could be better than a Star Beast that eats a Buick?

I have a soft spot for that era of sci fi… but man… it does not hold up well with the modern world.

[NJBob]

@Jezcoe

@NJBob

@Jezcoe

@rp5x5

One thing that annoys me is how there are many great books, especially SciFi or mystery and the company rips off Ideas and turn it into rubbish.

For instance Robert Heinlein . The author was prolific and totally commercial, yet even his most famous book is ignored. It was ripped off so many times, in inferior vehicles. I can think of only one of books being made in a movie, but if a series came on I would make to watch it.

Some authors already wrote masterpieces that are often ripped, but rarely accurate movies that follow the classic underlying book.

I don’t think that Heinlein holds up.

But that is generally true of that era of sci fi. Generally…

I recently reread “Foundation” because of the Apple show and it just isn’t good.

A lot of stuff from that era of science fiction just didn’t age well.

Heinlein not hold up!? What could be better than a Star Beast that eats a Buick?

I have a soft spot for that era of sci fi… but man… it does not hold up well with the modern world.

I hear you but Foundation is a great story and if I’m not mistaken is the original “galactic empire” tale. That alone makes it something special.

[rp5x5]

@Jezcoe

I don’t think that Heinlein holds up.

That’s absurd. You are defending the chiseling, rip offs?

Hollywood doesn"t hold up to Heinlein

[Jezcoe]

@NJBob

@Jezcoe

@NJBob

@Jezcoe

@rp5x5

One thing that annoys me is how there are many great books, especially SciFi or mystery and the company rips off Ideas and turn it into rubbish.

For instance Robert Heinlein . The author was prolific and totally commercial, yet even his most famous book is ignored. It was ripped off so many times, in inferior vehicles. I can think of only one of books being made in a movie, but if a series came on I would make to watch it.

Some authors already wrote masterpieces that are often ripped, but rarely accurate movies that follow the classic underlying book.

I don’t think that Heinlein holds up.

But that is generally true of that era of sci fi. Generally…

I recently reread “Foundation” because of the Apple show and it just isn’t good.

A lot of stuff from that era of science fiction just didn’t age well.

Heinlein not hold up!? What could be better than a Star Beast that eats a Buick?

I have a soft spot for that era of sci fi… but man… it does not hold up well with the modern world.

I hear you but Foundation is a great story and if I’m not mistaken is the original “galactic empire” tale. That alone makes it something special.

I reread Foundation over the summer.

Not that great.

The Prequels which were written later are even worse.

[NJBob]

@Jezcoe

@NJBob

@Jezcoe

@NJBob

@Jezcoe

@rp5x5

One thing that annoys me is how there are many great books, especially SciFi or mystery and the company rips off Ideas and turn it into rubbish.

For instance Robert Heinlein . The author was prolific and totally commercial, yet even his most famous book is ignored. It was ripped off so many times, in inferior vehicles. I can think of only one of books being made in a movie, but if a series came on I would make to watch it.

Some authors already wrote masterpieces that are often ripped, but rarely accurate movies that follow the classic underlying book.

I don’t think that Heinlein holds up.

But that is generally true of that era of sci fi. Generally…

I recently reread “Foundation” because of the Apple show and it just isn’t good.

A lot of stuff from that era of science fiction just didn’t age well.

Heinlein not hold up!? What could be better than a Star Beast that eats a Buick?

I have a soft spot for that era of sci fi… but man… it does not hold up well with the modern world.

I hear you but Foundation is a great story and if I’m not mistaken is the original “galactic empire” tale. That alone makes it something special.

I reread Foundation over the summer.

Not that great.

The Prequels which were written later are even worse.

I think the issue is Azimov’s writing style. He’s pretty dry.

The premise of the story is terrific. I have high hopes for the upcoming TV version.

[Jezcoe]

@NJBob

I think the issue is Azimov’s writing style. He’s pretty dry.

The premise of the story is terrific. I have high hopes for the upcoming TV version

What I realized in the Foundation reread is that they are literally practicing Imperialism.

That is why I don’t think it holds up all these years afterwards.

[Camp]

Chuck Jones was a unique talent.

I recommend his autobiography.

[NJBob]

@Jezcoe

@NJBob

I think the issue is Azimov’s writing style. He’s pretty dry.

The premise of the story is terrific. I have high hopes for the upcoming TV version

What I realized in the Foundation reread is that they are literally practicing Imperialism.

That is why I don’t think it holds up all these years afterwards.

I am about to reread Foundation. I’ll keep your comment about Imperialism in mind.

Thanks

[Camp]

Watching Love Sex Robots on Netflix… Pretty good. Some episodes really good.

[Jezcoe]

@NJBob

@Jezcoe

@NJBob

I think the issue is Azimov’s writing style. He’s pretty dry.

The premise of the story is terrific. I have high hopes for the upcoming TV version

What I realized in the Foundation reread is that they are literally practicing Imperialism.

That is why I don’t think it holds up all these years afterwards.

I am about to reread Foundation. I’ll keep your comment about Imperialism in mind.

Thanks

Keep that in mind. They tick off all of the boxes. Religious, cultural and economic Imperialism.

Now if the show is approached as a commentary on that it could be interesting. But at the end of the day they are trying to reestablish an actual Empire.