He was just as drunk as the rest of them, but Newt had the keys to the liquor cabinet
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STODR
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Every single time. It takes 2 to play. Stop being obstinate.
STODR
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No answer the question what are you against in his plan?
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Gaius
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What does “mandatory” mean?
Guilds
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It is not a plan. It is political theater.
Just like the anti LGBT laws being passed in republican state legislatures.
WuWei
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Just like climate hoax
DEI
Queer gender theory
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STODR
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Yea so you have no idea, you can’t articulate one thing wrong with it except it is being put forward by GOP. It is what we expect from you and libs.
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Guilds
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Other than generic spending cuts…with no details, what else does it do?
I agree with those i put in bold.
I would add some more myself.
I would defund the DOJ and FBI myself since they are little more than one sided political weapons.
Eliminate the money going to the national education department. (No need for that on a federal level)
Get rid of the 75,000 new IRS workers.
Defund green energy programs.
Stricter standards for SS disability. I see far too many young folks on it with claims such as anxiety “disorder” as an excuse not to work. (I suspect their “anxiety” is because they are allergic to work)
With a little time i could come up with more.
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Orygun
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Defense/SS/Medicare.
They arent mandatory in that we could change spending there. But now it seems that both parties want to avoid talking about SS and Medicare and I could never imagine Defense being truly cut.
That leaves discretionary- which means snipping around at the edges without really dealing with the true problem.
Its like having huge car payments for a couple fancy cars and deciding to eat out a little less each month to fix the family budget.
Orygun
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O’ course we could always emulate Canada/Europe and just raise taxes on wealthier folks and corporations to pay for all the stuff.
Gaius
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Defense is discretionary.
Then point I was getting at is that anything that is a welfare type program we call “mandatory” as if it were somehow . . . mandatory.
The same congress that said “Welfare pays $600 a month and that is mandatory,” can change the law to read “$590 a month.”
“Mandatory” is a meaningless and untrue piece of rhetoric. Unfortunately both sides use it as an accepted-term today.
Orygun
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Yup. Anything is on the table.
The Left has not wanted to give on Medicare and SS even though those programs have radically changed to gobble up an enormous amount of the budget. We live far longer than FDR and LBJs day. We also spend an enormous amount of money on elder care that we never used to.
Our Defense budget has been bloated for generations.
Add to that a desire on the Right to slash taxes and you have a recipe for spiraling deficits.
We are essentially living and paying for a world built just after WWII even though times have radically changed.
The problem is that the paralysis built into our partisan governmental structure is not letting us adapt and change with the times.
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STODR
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So you haven’t read got it. That is what we all knew, it was just your typical lib outrage about something something GOP.
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Gaius
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We had a good window in the 90s when the Cold War ended to either
- Bring spending under control,or
- Spend the “Peace Dividend” in ridiculous and harmful ways that would create dependency and be difficult to stop.
We apparently chose the second route. The choices we faced then were much much easier than the choices we face now.
The REAL nail in the coffin of that opportunity came when the Fed made the short-term temporary response to 9-11 into a permanent thing, also creating a dependency of sorts.
From zoning laws and home sizes to employers who rely on tiny tiny artificially-flattened interest rates (and I am sure there is more on the list) our economy has become addicted to a print-amd-spend level that will be painful to quit and fatal if continued.
When’s the second best time to plant a tree?
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Guilds
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I read a summary.
What are the specific cuts? what else is in the bill, that does not involve cutting spending?
If you cannot answer that, are you sure you read it?
STODR
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Lol, I know what is in it. You are the one against it but can’t name one specific thing you are against. I love to watch you libs flail in ignorance.
You are not smart enough to get me to do your work for you. Maybe you should bail out of this until you educate yourself.
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Guilds
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Are you reading my posts? I summarized my problem with the bill.
You have provided nothing about the bill, other than you like it.
What do you like about it?
I pretty sure you still won’t answer…not sure why.
STODR
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I didn’t ask for a summary of generic terms. I asked for something specific.
I said I liked it, where? Or you now just lieing?
I am not answering because you are too lazy to look up something you don’t like and want others to do your work. I am not your Google. You can claim stuff all you want about my knowledge of it but you have been avoiding giving one example. We all know why.
But I will throw you a bone. One thing I like is it requesting all covid money not spent returned. One thing I don’t like is oil and gas incentives.
