Orygun
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So…do you support radically cutting SS and Medicare as they are unconstitutional?
So you’re against…
“(protecting) our communities from violent criminals, criminal organizations, the illegal use and trafficking of firearms, the illegal use and storage of explosives, acts of arson and bombings, acts of terrorism, and the illegal diversion of alcohol and tobacco products. We partner with communities, industries, law enforcement, and public safety agencies to safeguard the public we serve through information sharing, training, research, and use of technology.”?

WuWei:
True. But unless you reduce spending, the “ceiling” is playing pretend.
The first thing to do is cut up the credit card.
I’m good with that during the next budget negotiations after we protect the full faith of our debt. It would destroy the economy if we do not.
I’d cut defense by 30% and every other excutive brach by 7% to begin paying down our debt in the next budget.
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DisturbedGuy:

WuWei:
True. But unless you reduce spending, the “ceiling” is playing pretend.
The first thing to do is cut up the credit card.
I’m good with that during the next budget negotiations after we protect the full faith of our debt. It would destroy the economy if we do not.
I’d cut defense by 30% and every other excutive brach by 7% to begin paying down our debt in the next budget.
Cutting defense by 30% and everything else by 7% will not get you anywhere close to being able to pay down the debt, ever.
WuWei
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If they did that, maybe I could answer.
WuWei
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You should have thought of that before you voted for drunken sailors.
Trump is also a drunken sailor.
By what metric other than your feeeeeeelings are you suggesting they don’t do that?
The last Prez that wasn’t a drunken sailor was Clinton.
Safiel
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There is only one question to be addressed. What action is required to protect the full faith and credit of the United States???
The answer is to raise the debt ceiling sufficiently to allow for sufficient borrowing to cover expiring debt instruments and debt interest which MUST be paid on time.
There is NO “choice” in this matter. The full faith and credit of the United States MUST BE UPHELD.
Raising the debt ceiling is not an endorsement of new or increased spending. It merely allows us to honor our sacrosanct debt obligations.
A default should be unthinkable and using default as a weapon to exhort policy should also be unthinkable.
In any event.
Republicans control the House of Representatives and thus ANY spending MUST have their endorsement. If they want to cut spending, pass spending bills with cuts and send them to the Senate and bargain with the Democrats with that.
They won’t, of course. They will send the same bloated defense spending bill and NDAA that always gets passed. They may make a few token cuts in discretionary that will be totally meaningless. They won’t go anywhere near Social Security and Medicare.
The only real thing they will push is likely to roll back the extra spending for the IRS, but that will be about it.
When it comes right down to it, both parties love to spend. Unless and until that that changes, there will be no spending policy changes.
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WuWei
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Which is a result of complete and utter mismanagement of public funds and will continue until the root cause is addressed.
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DisturbedGuy:

WuWei:
Spending is doing the driving.
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Agreed, but when the credit card comes due it’s time to pay the bill not argue about how we got there.
True. But unless you reduce spending, the “ceiling” is playing pretend.
The first thing to do is cut up the credit card.
When so many Representatives see it as their job to buy votes from the electorate, the infinite spending will never cease, that’s until the system collapses.
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WuWei:
Every other metric.
You should be able to provide some then.
The only reason Clinton did not spend like a drunken sailor was because the GOP. If clinton would have had the house he would have spent just like a drunken sailor. Clinton a least had more brains than the last two dem Presidents and he moved to the middle.
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Pipe dream. Might have happened under Clinton but now the left will not comprise on anything. The dems in the senate will not cut anything or compromise. This has left the GOP with only one thing to use to maybe bring the left to the table to work out a compromise. Only thing is the left is so full of themselves they really don’t care if the country goes down the tubes as long as they don’t allow the GOP to maybe have a win. Look at your useless leader in the White House he is not even willing to talk.
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Guilds
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How many times have the Democrats held the country hostage with the debt ceiling BS?
STODR
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Everytime the GOP says only this much and they refuse to negotiate off their high horse. Leadership is about making some hard decisions. Libs suck at that. The last person who was willing to compromise was Clinton. Hence the deficit went down.
Tell us what you think is object able in the plan McCarthy put forward?
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