Why did/does man create religions?

reflechissez · 2019-01-13T22:56:58.907Z

ImRightYoureWrong:

Meriweather:

Nor did I say that. To be more clear: A couple we knew who had been cohabiting then discussed becoming formally married for tax and other legal considerations. They decided no, that they did not want such government reach in their lives when the government wasn’t giving other couples, be they sibling couples, roommates, gay, etc those same considerations.

Ok. Some people dont want to get married. So?

Yeah, I don’t get the point of that particular deflection.

Borgia_dude · 2019-01-14T00:21:32.609Z

That makes three of us. So some heteros decided to cohabitation and not get married. Are you saying gays should do likewise? Pretty sure you are not. So what is your point other than anecdote?

Meriweather · 2019-01-14T00:38:52.297Z

Already said it once: Ironic that some Americans want government more involved in society whereas other Americans want less government involvement. The same occurs in religion. Some want more influence, others want less. I was pointing to a simply observation, something everyone might agree with…but heaven forbid we agree on anything…

Borgia_dude · 2019-01-14T00:45:21.714Z

Ok. So some don’t want govt interference. I agree there is that group, probably some homosexuals in that group too.

Do we all agree that gays should be able to marry? That govt should not discriminate?

Meriweather · 2019-01-14T00:59:25.256Z

Borgia_dude:

Ok. So some don’t want govt interference. I agree there is that group, probably some homosexuals in that group too.

Do we all agree that gays should be able to marry? That govt should not discriminate?

People have married roller coasters, horses, dolphins, etc. People now see marriage in many different ways and society is going along with it. It is what it is.

Meriweather · 2019-01-14T01:01:24.453Z

Borgia_dude:

That govt should not discriminate?

If someone tells the government he/she is married, the government should not be able to discriminate. But I go a step further, if someone claims couple status, the government should not be able to discriminate between married couples and unmarried couples.

Borgia_dude · 2019-01-14T01:11:58.129Z

Meriweather:

Borgia_dude:

Ok. So some don’t want govt interference. I agree there is that group, probably some homosexuals in that group too.

Do we all agree that gays should be able to marry? That govt should not discriminate?

People have married roller coasters, horses, dolphins, etc. People now see marriage in many different ways and society is going along with it. It is what it is.

Meri, I think we are talking about govt and marriage. The examples you give above are not govt sanctioned marriages, right?

Borgia_dude · 2019-01-14T01:13:28.774Z

Meriweather:

Borgia_dude:

That govt should not discriminate?

If someone tells the government he/she is married, the government should not be able to discriminate. But I go a step further, if someone claims couple status, the government should not be able to discriminate between married couples and unmarried couples.

If a couple wants to declare themselves “together”

Borgia_dude · 2019-01-14T01:14:05.492Z

Oops, meant to simply say “I’m fine with your response”

Meriweather · 2019-01-14T01:34:40.785Z

Borgia_dude:

Meri, I think we are talking about govt and marriage. The examples you give above are not govt sanctioned marriages, right?

Who sanctions marriage? The person or the government? The government seems to think it is the higher order (over the individual) who can declare a marriage sanctioned or not. Why can’t the person tell the government, “I sanctioned this marriage, you have nothing to say about it.”

Meriweather · 2019-01-14T01:38:04.865Z

Borgia_dude:

Oops, meant to simply say “I’m fine with your response”

Either way. I’m not a fan of big government. In this case, I support the individual telling the government what is.

Borgia_dude · 2019-01-14T02:34:54.679Z

Meriweather:

Borgia_dude:

Meri, I think we are talking about govt and marriage. The examples you give above are not govt sanctioned marriages, right?

Who sanctions marriage? The person or the government? The government seems to think it is the higher order (over the individual) who can declare a marriage sanctioned or not. Why can’t the person tell the government, “I sanctioned this marriage, you have nothing to say about it.”

Anyone can call themselves married. Govt doesn’t stop anyone. But for govt related benefits it must be govt recognized, right?

Again, if I want to say my friend and I are married in our eyes and Isis’s eyes, the govt won’t interfere.

Meriweather · 2019-01-14T02:42:29.654Z

Borgia_dude:

Anyone can call themselves married. Govt doesn’t stop anyone. But for govt related benefits it must be govt recognized, right?

Again, if I want to say my friend and I are married in our eyes and Isis’s eyes, the govt won’t interfere.

The main point is that there are many types of couples. I feel government benefits should extend to all couples…or to no couples. Keep in mind I am not a fan of big, complicated government.

ImRightYoureWrong · 2019-01-14T04:03:10.242Z

Meriweather:

People have married roller coasters, horses, dolphins, etc.

Yea that’s totally what we are talking about

reflechissez · 2019-01-14T04:10:15.160Z

Meriweather:

Borgia_dude:

Ok. So some don’t want govt interference. I agree there is that group, probably some homosexuals in that group too.

Do we all agree that gays should be able to marry? That govt should not discriminate?

People have married roller coasters, horses, dolphins, etc. People now see marriage in many different ways and society is going along with it. It is what it is.

Stop being ridiculous.

AlexMcAlpine · 2019-01-14T04:30:27.581Z

reflechissez:

Stop being ridiculous.

Sadly, she isn’t joking.

The Mirror – 15 Jan 15

Meet the woman who married ROLLERCOASTER called Bruce

Linda, 56, whose past romantic interests include a locomotive and an aeroplane, now spends her nights sleeping on the 70 tonne theme park ride

ImRightYoureWrong · 2019-01-14T04:42:23.467Z

That is a pretty hot rollercoaster

reflechissez · 2019-01-14T05:16:19.092Z

AlexMcAlpine:

reflechissez:

Stop being ridiculous.

Sadly, she isn’t joking.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/weird-news/meet-woman-who-married-rollercoaster-4984994

I never denied that it didn’t happen. It’s just not a relevant part of the discussion. However, according to Meri, they should both get benefits.

CanadianJudo · 2019-01-14T07:37:55.496Z

Pretty much because death is scary.

Borgia_dude · 2019-01-14T09:19:21.395Z

Meriweather:

The main point is that there are many types of couples. I feel government benefits should extend to all couples…or to no couples. Keep in mind I am not a fan of big, complicated government.

And since we live in a nation that has a govt that extends benefits they should extend those benefits to homosexual couples. We agree. It was shameful that conservatives opposed that, right?