Why AGI will likely wipe out humanity

[SixFoot]

@FloridaYankee

@SixFoot

You still haven’t proven your wild ass claim? Get out of here.

Even you could learn some of their techniques.

Just stop already. It’s getting pathetic how you obviously can’t back up your silly claims after so many DAYS of desperately trying to fool everyone but yourself. Go play with some rocks.

[zantax]

More failure modes that are virtually guaranteed to happen even if we can ultimately control AI

Malevolent use of AI by bad human actors
Societal trust goes to zero, you will never know who wrote anything written, AI or human.
Economic disruption, fast and widespread disruption
Asymmetrical security threats posed to any nation who is behind on AI
Lots of males sitting around on universal basic incomes being given something to do, war.

[Samm]

@FloridaYankee

We have surpassed their precision and have been for decades. Hubble mirror for example.

You’re bring ridiculous. We are talking about fitting stones of various size and shape together using the technology of the time, not polishing a mirror to a precise curve. You can’t do it and neither can the people who shaped (incorrectly, by the way) that mirror. Just stop.

[zantax]

We are starting to get Hubble like results from balloon telescopes.

First research flight images from innovative balloon-borne telescope

Just thought I would throw that in here for no reason

[Samm]

But how are they doing on their Inca stone wall reproduction?

[zantax]

It’s all fun and games until Bing sends robots to eat your face.

[FloridaYankee]

Second paragraph of the below article, emphasis mine;

Protzen has spent many months in Inca country experimenting with different methods of shaping and fitting the same kinds of stones used by the Incas. He found that quarrying and dressing the stones were not problems at all using the stone hammers found in abundance in the area. Even the precision-fitting of stones was a relatively simple matter. The concave depressions into which new stones were fit were pounded out by trial and error until a snug fit was achieved. Protzen’s first-hand experience is impressive and convincing. Certainly he required no radical solutions.

https://www.science-frontiers.com/sf044/sf044p01.htm

[zantax]

Would need to see x-ray imaging or someway to compare instead just his assertion he matched them. In short the article contained an assertion, not a proof.

[FloridaYankee]

Have you seen xrays of Inca walls?

[zantax]

@FloridaYankee

Have you seen xrays of Inca walls?

No. Just saying it’s hard to gauge without data, some guy saying I did it isn’t exactly proof.

[FloridaYankee]

Your “some guy” is (was before his passing) a world renowned expert in Inca stone construction. Two of his many publications are;

Inca Architecture and Construction at Ollantaytambo

The Stones of Tiahuanaco: A Study of Architecture and Construction

That stuff was his life.

[FloridaYankee]

crickets

[Samm]

@zantax

It’s all fun and games until Bing sends robots to eat your face.

Which is why I refuse to use Bing.

[Samm]

@FloridaYankee

Second paragraph of the below article, emphasis mine;

Protzen has spent many months in Inca country experimenting with different methods of shaping and fitting the same kinds of stones used by the Incas. He found that quarrying and dressing the stones were not problems at all using the stone hammers found in abundance in the area. Even the precision-fitting of stones was a relatively simple matter. The concave depressions into which new stones were fit were pounded out by trial and error until a snug fit was achieved. Protzen’s first-hand experience is impressive and convincing. Certainly he required no radical solutions.

How The Incas Worked Stone

■■■■■■■■■ That might work for stones without multiple faced sides that are small enough to move “trial and error”, but it will not work for stones weighing several tons each and having multiple stair-step faces. (Imagine pounding out one of those 90 degree inside corners with a stone hammer and having it fit both surfaces such that you can’t fit a knife point between the stones. And then imagine doing it thousands of times.)

[FloridaYankee]

@Samm

@FloridaYankee

Second paragraph of the below article, emphasis mine;

Protzen has spent many months in Inca country experimenting with different methods of shaping and fitting the same kinds of stones used by the Incas. He found that quarrying and dressing the stones were not problems at all using the stone hammers found in abundance in the area. Even the precision-fitting of stones was a relatively simple matter. The concave depressions into which new stones were fit were pounded out by trial and error until a snug fit was achieved. Protzen’s first-hand experience is impressive and convincing. Certainly he required no radical solutions.

How The Incas Worked Stone

■■■■■■■■■ That might work for stones without multiple faced sides that are small enough to move “trial and error”, but it will not work for stones weighing several tons each and having multiple stair-step faces.

Cut the big stone first and fit the smaller ones to it.

[Samm]

Why cut the big one at all, if that is the order you employ?

So which big stone did they place first here to fit the others to it (by the iterative process that you described)?

[FloridaYankee]

Cuz it’s impressive!

[Samm]

Yeah right. They had so much time on their hands that they deliberately made more work for themselves to impress future archeologists.

[FloridaYankee]

That’s a stupid comment. To impress the current population and show off their wealth and power.

[Samm]

Utter nonsense. It was the population who built those things. Who were they impressing? Themselves?