Who's ready for a little common sense?

peek-a-boo · 2021-04-23T13:08:52.907Z

So crack cocaine was only a black phenomenon?

PurpnGold · 2021-04-23T13:23:17.687Z

Mostly, yes. Which is why it was criminalized the way it was in the 80s.

zantax · 2021-04-23T13:25:00.973Z

WuWei:

peek-a-boo:

60’s yes. Care to elaborate on the 80’s and 90’s?

Crack.

You mean when the black community demanded harsher sentences and more police because the crack epidemic was destroying their neighborhoods and they were calling white people racist if they wouldn’t give it to them? Yeah, I remember.

TommyLucchese · 2021-04-23T13:52:02.511Z

peek-a-boo:

So you are unable to refute my argument and instead offer empty rhetoric. I fully understand. If you change your mind and would like to have an intelligent conversation, I’ll be here.

Oh I can, it’s just easier to call shenanigans. The mid 80s to the mid 90s were the most violent era in American history since the civil war. Police had lost control of the streets almost entirely in the inner city during the crack epidemic and were fighting what was essentially a guerrilla war against gangbangers and drug crews while those dudes fought amongst each other for drug corners worth millions.

It was absolute bedlam. Not enough cops, not enough jail cells, not enough prosecutors, not enough judges or trial slots. And the cops were on the street with a revolver, a nightstick and vests so ■■■■■■ they wouldn’t stop a nine mil, which they usually didn’t bother to wear.

To say it’s more dangerous now, or even ten years ago, is a ■■■■■■■ joke.

TommyLucchese · 2021-04-23T13:53:21.057Z

peek-a-boo:

So crack cocaine was only a black phenomenon?

Crack was mostly sold by black people. Mostly consumed by white people.

TommyLucchese · 2021-04-23T13:55:27.830Z

zantax:

You mean when the black community demanded harsher sentences and more police because the crack epidemic was destroying their neighborhoods and they were calling white people racist if they wouldn’t give it to them? Yeah, I remember.

Oh you mean when they were screaming for the cops to get control of serious violent crime and instead got broken windows quality of life arrests and digging in fiend’s pockets for a rock and an easy collar while murder clearance rates were less than fifty percent and aggravated assault and attempted murder clearances were less than ten percent.

altair1013 · 2021-04-23T14:49:23.692Z

TheRedComet:

Yeah it’s generally better to cooperate. Don’t want to become a statistic.

Then why can’t BLM and the woke crowd say this out loud? Do you think they want black folks to get shot so to promote their agenda? Sometimes it sure seems that way.

peek-a-boo · 2021-04-23T15:10:09.625Z

TommyLucchese:

To say it’s more dangerous now, or even ten years ago, is a ■■■■■■■ joke.

Ahh but I never said that.

I’m not talking about inner city drug problems impacting whites as well as blacks.

I’m talking about routine traffic stops and domestic disputes outside of the inner city.

TommyLucchese · 2021-04-23T15:32:19.050Z

peek-a-boo:

Ahh but I never said that.

I’m not talking about inner city drug problems impacting whites as well as blacks.

I’m talking about routine traffic stops and domestic disputes outside of the inner city.

So am I. It was much, much more dangerous twenty, twenty five years ago than it is now for cops. It’s literally never been safer to be police than it is now.

You just wrong.

TheRedComet · 2021-04-23T15:34:06.634Z

White people have never used crack in large numbers. They always preferred powder. Inner city whites certainly used crack, though.

The “crack” of the white community is meth and opiate based painkillers.

altair1013 · 2021-04-23T15:34:39.429Z

TommyLucchese:

It’s literally never been safer to be police than it is now.

Really? Tell that to the cops who have been blinded by lasers for the crime of trying to prevent arson.

SixFoot · 2021-04-23T15:35:33.539Z

I still call them crackheads though.

TheRedComet · 2021-04-23T15:36:24.719Z

Definitely.

They’re all just junkies.

TommyLucchese · 2021-04-23T15:59:59.877Z

altair1013:

Really? Tell that to the cops who have been blinded by lasers for the crime of trying to prevent arson.

Try telling that to the cops who were being murdered with bullets on a regular basis in the 80s and 90s, or getting hit in the head with toasters thrown from fourth story windows.

You just wrong. Just like him. Look up the stats.

TommyLucchese · 2021-04-23T16:01:54.767Z

TheRedComet:

White people have never used crack in large numbers. They always preferred powder. Inner city whites certainly used crack, though

That wasn’t true back in the crack epidemic days. It’s not a coincidence that every big drug corner in the country was on a major suburban commuter route.

It’s a myth white suburbanites used to justify ignoring the crack epidemic. I want, you really think these lunatic crack dealers were among six, seven figures just selling to hood people?

altair1013 · 2021-04-23T16:21:28.873Z

TommyLucchese:

Try telling that to the cops who were being murdered with bullets on a regular basis in the 80s and 90s, or getting hit in the head with toasters thrown from fourth story windows.

You just wrong. Just like him. Look up the stats.

Okay sure.

The number of blacks killed by police was 258. There are nearly a million police officers. The number of arrests was 2,197,140. This puts the probability of an arrested black person being killed by a peace officer at 1 in 8,516.

And nearly 100 percent of them were resisting when they died. If you do not scuffle with police, your odds of survival are as close to 100 percent as they can possibly be. Common sense. Agreed?

TommyLucchese · 2021-04-23T16:36:56.128Z

altair1013:

Okay sure.

The number of blacks killed by police was 258. There are nearly a million police officers. The number of arrests was 2,197,140. This puts the probability of an arrested black person being killed by a peace officer at 1 in 8,516.

And nearly 100 percent of them were resisting when they died. If you do not scuffle with police, your odds of survival are as close to 100 percent as they can possibly be. Common sense. Agreed?

No, stop trying to be clever and look up the officer safety stats. The 80s and 90s were wildly more dangerous for cops than the last fifteen years. That is what we were discussing. That is what you were wrong about.

WuWei · 2021-04-23T16:40:03.743Z

TommyLucchese:

peek-a-boo:

Ahh but I never said that.

I’m not talking about inner city drug problems impacting whites as well as blacks.

I’m talking about routine traffic stops and domestic disputes outside of the inner city.

So am I. It was much, much more dangerous twenty, twenty five years ago than it is now for cops. It’s literally never been safer to be police than it is now.

You just wrong.

Why?
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altair1013 · 2021-04-23T16:40:44.368Z

TommyLucchese:

No, stop trying to be clever

No. Never. It’s part of my charm. It’s the reason chicks, dogs and babies dig me. You’re just gonna have to come to terms.

peek-a-boo · 2021-04-23T17:41:37.131Z

That’s not what I was arguing at all.