Who shot Ashli Babbitt?

Oldandtired · 2021-09-06T21:50:48.828Z

Byrd the coward should be fired.

Munimula1 · 2021-09-06T21:54:56.433Z

And how did the crowd know that?

Munimula1 · 2021-09-06T21:55:17.184Z

Oldandtired:

Byrd the coward should be fired.

Forget it.

Oldandtired · 2021-09-06T22:00:23.508Z

The officer should have.

Munimula1 · 2021-09-06T22:02:10.424Z

Sure- let them in to ambush our elected government representatives, Where the ■■■■ did you think Ashli and company were headed?

Seriously- what are you thinking?

Oldandtired · 2021-09-06T22:08:16.828Z

See here you are making up things you want to have happened.
You have no idea where ashli and company were headed and have no idea what they would have done. Seriously we can all see what the leftist wished would have happened by the stories that they have made up in their heads and post here.

FlameHeart · 2021-09-06T22:16:39.219Z

Someone may compare Ashli Babbit’s murder to George Floyd’s murder.

Look out.

FlameHeart · 2021-09-06T22:21:12.310Z

The sinister, twisted fact is, had Ashli not been murdered but arrested, she would have gotten worse treatment- as the current Jan. 6th prisoners are getting.

It makes me sick to my stomach to say this, but Ashli would not have been any better off alive, because then she would be arrested and then tortured in jail like the others.

It is still horrible what happened to her, though. For herself and her family.

FlameHeart · 2021-09-06T22:24:39.356Z

Indeed. He wasn’t in immenent danger.

Heck, he is safer than, in the scenario of say, in a house in a bad neighborhood and it’s the middle of the night and someone on meth comes banging on the door and yelling erratically. Because at least then he would have the excuse of getting his gun and pointing it towards the perceived threat.

Ashli was not even that close.

Munimula1 · 2021-09-06T22:44:14.649Z

Oldandtired:

You have no idea where ashli and company were headed

We absolutely know EXACTLY where they were headed.

Seriously- how to you keep this charade up?

conan · 2021-09-06T22:51:43.443Z

George Floyd deserved to die because he wouldn’t follow officer Derek Chauvin commands.

SpacemanSpiff · 2021-09-06T22:54:41.140Z

Munimula1:

Sure- let them in to ambush our elected government representatives, Where the ■■■■ did you think Ashli and company were headed?

Seriously- what are you thinking?

They were gonna find Pelosi and AOC and merely tell them “ Hey, we disagree with some things.” and then peacefully leave.
/s

conan · 2021-09-06T22:55:59.230Z

Minority report…

SpacemanSpiff · 2021-09-06T22:58:09.922Z

conan:

Minority report…

One out of 1,000 precogs…

WuWei · 2021-09-06T23:01:06.435Z

WorldWatcher:

Striking a moving target in the shoulder is center of mass in that situation.

That is not what COM means.

Samm · 2021-09-06T23:15:54.960Z

Zander:

Samm:

Borgia_dude:

Smyrna:

WorldWatcher:

As the video shows he had his gun out in advance which was clearly visible. Per the interview video he says multiple times that he provided verbal warnings not to breach the barricade but because of the yelling by the rioters that couldn’t be heard via cell phone video form the other side.

He didn’t position himself where he could easily be seen…like his counterparts on the other side…PERIOD! There is no excuse and if there is no jury, this will never fully be put to bed.

People were yelling “gun” repeatedly so he was visible. Quit trying to create a false narrative.

A protester yelling “gun” does not constitute a warning by the cop that they intend to shoot anyone. Cops unholster their guns considerably more often than they shoot someone.

In those situations, do they holster the gun again when the person they upholstered it for breaks through a barricade separating the cop from the person?

Or do they do something else?

If the person is not attacking the officer or another person, and not drawing, holding or brandishing a weapon in a threatening manner, they are not justified in using lethal force. Period.

We have had many discussions in this Forum on the use of lethal force by police. In every one of those discussions, the issue of the threat posed by the the person who was shot was the determining factor in justifying the shooting. We even had a couple where the cop shot someone who was walking away from the officer, in which the cop’s actions were condemned by cons and libs alike. The only thing unique about this one is that libs think Ashli deserved it merely because of where she was and who she was there for.

Borgia_dude · 2021-09-06T23:19:51.353Z

Samm:

Borgia_dude:

Smyrna:

WorldWatcher:

As the video shows he had his gun out in advance which was clearly visible. Per the interview video he says multiple times that he provided verbal warnings not to breach the barricade but because of the yelling by the rioters that couldn’t be heard via cell phone video form the other side.

He didn’t position himself where he could easily be seen…like his counterparts on the other side…PERIOD! There is no excuse and if there is no jury, this will never fully be put to bed.

People were yelling “gun” repeatedly so he was visible. Quit trying to create a false narrative.

A protester yelling “gun” does not constitute a warning by the cop that they intend to shoot anyone. Cops unholster their guns considerably more often than they shoot someone.

I was responding to the notion that Ashlee was unaware of the gun.

Samm · 2021-09-06T23:21:12.837Z

sikofit:

Samm:

sikofit:

Camp:

We will request a review of the review.

That’s what the DOJ did. They came to the same conclusion. The official line is that no further action will be taken.

DOJ did not reinvestigate. They read the report and concurred.

That’s still a review of the review. It doesn’t matter that you disagree with them.

A review of a review is not two reviews. The combined reviews were incestuous in nature … both the Capital Police and the DOJ had a vested interest in finding no fault in the incident.

Borgia_dude · 2021-09-06T23:22:42.393Z

FlameHeart:

The sinister, twisted fact is, had Ashli not been murdered but arrested, she would have gotten worse treatment- as the current Jan. 6th prisoners are getting.

It makes me sick to my stomach to say this, but Ashli would not have been any better off alive, because then she would be arrested and then tortured in jail like the others.

It is still horrible what happened to her, though. For herself and her family.

What reality are you living in? Sheesh, they even gave one guy organic food when he complained.

Samm · 2021-09-06T23:23:19.979Z

Munimula1:

That’s still a review of the review. Wrong.

“Officials examined video footage posted on social media, statements from the officer involved and other officers and witnesses to the events, physical evidence from the scene of the shooting, and the results of an autopsy,” the Justice Department said. “Based on that investigation, officials determined that there is insufficient evidence to support a criminal prosecution.”

That was back in April. Capitol police didn’t clear him until August.

Oh wow! Well if it was that thorough no wonder they exhonorated him.