Who is Tommy Robinson, and why was he arrested?

Smyrna · 2019-05-20T11:58:22.298Z

Tommy-Englander:

I live 10 miles from Oldham,I think I know a bit more about it than you and I know far more about Tommy Robinson than you,his jail sentences for assault,assaulting a police officer,football hooliganism and fraud for instance. I could then mention his former membership in the British National Party,a racist white nationalist party.If you knew half of what Tommy Robinson is really like you wouldn’t be defending him.

It isn’t hate it is facts,you are defending racist scum and accusing people who oppose him of being sheep.

Great speech…now answer the question? Is Oldham a Muslim community? You made a hateful comment, now back it up. Is it? Did Robinson do as you said and go into a Muslim community to inspire hate or did you…misspeak? Remember…you live close so you know the answer? What is it? Violence took place so…where did it come from? Who provoked it? You live there so…you know the answer? Again I ask, what HONESTLY is it?

Tommy-Englander · 2019-05-20T12:17:02.414Z

If you espouse anti Muslim hatred you don’t go to a place like Oldham were their is a large Asian community campaigning for votes and expect a warm welcome? Yes the Muslims did probably instigate it but this is a town that has seen a riot in the not too distant past instigated by a neo nazi group Combat 18 and a coming together of the racist hooligans from all over the country.I can understand why people would get angry about more racists descending on their town.However, this is what Robinson wants because it gets him in the news and you get all the low information sheeple thinking he is some sort of martyr.

Smyrna · 2019-05-20T12:18:59.715Z

Tommy-Englander:

If you espouse anti Muslim hatred you don’t go to a place like Oldham were their is a large Asian community campaigning for votes and expect a warm welcome? Yes the Muslims did probably instigate it but this is a town that has seen a riot in the not too distant past instigated by a neo nazi group Combat 18 and a coming together of the racist hooligans from all over the country.I can understand why people would get angry about more racists descending on their town.However, this is what Robinson wants because it gets him in the news and you get all the low information sheeple thinking he is some sort of martyr.

Let’s you and I subscribe to this elderly lady who is from the UK and has posted her NEUTRAL view of what took place. She is providing two videos…one from with in Robinsion’s group and one from the Muslim Defense League showing their POV. She’s doing her best to be civil and asks many good questions. Let’s you and I learn something from someone attempting to expose the truth. Are you game?

Tommy-Englander · 2019-05-20T12:44:12.018Z

Ok first things first .This woman isn’t an impartial observer ,a cursory look at her other videos show many praising Tommy Robinson and other dubious characters.She seems overtly preoccupied with Muslims.

As I stated before, the Asians probably did the start the violence,I will concede they did,however Oldham is a small town,she can say it’s a largely white area but its right next to an estate full of Asians.Tommy Robinson’s EDL visited the town and caused violence in the past you could’ve predicted what would happen.

There is one thing about the day I find particularly troubling and that is the police didn’t try to stop the Muslim Defence League marching up to the rally,I have seen them do similar things at football games in virtually allowing a violent confrontation to take place,filming it and then arresting people in the days following.I am sure their will be some kind of inquiry into the policing on the day

JayJay · 2019-05-20T13:18:18.130Z

Well Smyrna will tell you it’s because the police were in cahoots with The Establishment in trying to take good British Patriot Robinson down, but now you say this may be a police pattern whether the potential violence is around politics or non-politics?

Why do you think the police are acting like this?

reflechissez · 2019-05-20T14:04:41.538Z

Tommy-Englander:

.If you knew half of what Tommy Robinson is really like you wouldn’t be defending him.

I wouldn’t be so sure of that.

Tommy-Englander · 2019-05-20T15:19:26.910Z

I’m not sure if they determined the risk to officers of such a large group was such that they decided to escort them till further back up arrived or maybe they were gathering intelligence or simply incompetent policing, I wouldn’t like to say for sure.

On a different note I share the sentiments of the local MP who said of the days events.: “It’s horrible to see our town being used for hate and division when our own future is a shared one, long after the circus has left town.”

JayJay · 2019-05-20T15:58:30.403Z

Thanks.

Amazing when one doesn’t start with a preconceived opinion of a big existing conspiracy what one may learn!

Or maybe when the police let the hooligans riot at football matches, it’s just to mask their real job as Deep State Minions…

Smyrna · 2019-05-20T16:17:11.305Z

Tommy-Englander:

There is one thing about the day I find particularly troubling and that is the police didn’t try to stop the Muslim Defence League marching up to the rally,I have seen them do similar things at football games in virtually allowing a violent confrontation to take place,filming it and then arresting people in the days following.I am sure their will be some kind of inquiry into the policing on the day

Thank you for opening and sharing your thoughts. I agree…it’s troubling.

Tommy-Englander · 2019-05-20T16:17:32.601Z

Too true! The deep state machine is trying to crush good upstanding patriotic thugs and racists with the tacit collusion of the establishment BBC.

It’s a national outrage …

Smyrna · 2019-05-20T16:18:43.413Z

JayJay:

Well Smyrna will tell you it’s because the police were in cahoots with The Establishment in trying to take good British Patriot Robinson down, but now you say this may be a police pattern whether the potential violence is around politics or non-politics?

Why do you think the police are acting like this?

Now ask yourself how you missed this even after i pointed it out?

JayJay · 2019-05-20T16:20:34.968Z

Smyrna:

JayJay:

Well Smyrna will tell you it’s because the police were in cahoots with The Establishment in trying to take good British Patriot Robinson down, but now you say this may be a police pattern whether the potential violence is around politics or non-politics?

Why do you think the police are acting like this?

Now ask yourself how you missed this even after i pointed it out?

I didn’t miss a thing.

I stated your video provided no evidence the police were in cahoots with the Muslim Defence League.

This is a subtle but distinct difference which I am sure goes right over your head.

Smyrna · 2019-05-20T16:23:39.020Z

Tommy-Englander:

I’m not sure if they determined the risk to officers of such a large group was such that they decided to escort them till further back up arrived or maybe they were gathering intelligence or simply incompetent policing, I wouldn’t like to say for sure.

It’s unusual to say the least and was purposeful. Now the question becomes…what was the purpose? Either way, as the results of the day show…it wasn’t professional policing. Now it leads as to why they would do this? I suspect it’s because they are fulfilling the wishes of those who are in charge who do NOT want Robinson to be elected? So by observation it appears that the media, the police and the political establishment are in collusion to accomplish this goal.

Smyrna · 2019-05-20T16:24:33.476Z

JayJay:

I didn’t miss a thing.

I stated your video provided no evidence the police were in cahoots with the Muslim Defence League.

This is a subtle but distinct difference which I am sure goes right over your head.

They were right in front of you but…you lack the discernment to see the obvious. Stick with me my friend and I’ll do my best to teach you.

Tommy-Englander · 2019-05-20T16:36:06.504Z

I disagree.Robinson doesn’t have a great chance of being elected, the far right vote is split between him,UKIP and Nigel Farage and his Brexit Party,the latter will do far better IMO .Add to that the North West is a Labour heartland.I don’t believe in any conspiracy to silence Tommy Robinson.

JayJay · 2019-05-20T16:41:07.119Z

But when he loses, it will be the go to excuse.

Zander · 2019-05-20T17:03:22.065Z

Sure, I mean, you live ten miles from the place, but dude….dude…I’ve got Youtube and wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy too much free time. It’s no comparison. I’m the expert here.

Did I mention I have YouTube?

Zander · 2019-05-20T17:04:28.901Z

Axxowiz:

I’m not saying it’s perfect or without problems, but the fact that if a large percentage of the population is dissatisfied with the two party dominant system a new party that is actually relevant can spring up to challenge them might not be all that bad.

As of now the libertarian and Green Party are just jokes.

Fair enough. I just think splinter parties carry their own heap of problems.

JayJay · 2019-05-20T17:06:50.839Z

Zander:

Sure, I mean, you live ten miles from the place, but dude….dude…I’ve got Youtube and wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy too much free time. It’s no comparison. I’m the expert here.

Did I mention I have YouTube?

It’s not just YouTube.

It’s YouTube’s “Establishment-free” channels…

Smyrna · 2019-05-21T11:04:23.380Z

Tommy-Englander:

I disagree.Robinson doesn’t have a great chance of being elected, the far right vote is split between him,UKIP and Nigel Farage and his Brexit Party,the latter will do far better IMO .Add to that the North West is a Labour heartland.I don’t believe in any conspiracy to silence Tommy Robinson.

The mere introduction of the Brexit party and it’s current rise in popularity, plus a man on the ballot that the establishment has in their sights to silence…makes this election on the 23rd very interesting to this observing ally.