Who has done more for America and for the Middle Class, this group or Liberal Politicians?

Poshkosh. Obamacare.

Whomever you want, and feel thankful towards.

If a choice is framed to be between middle class and politicians, it presents a much more robust argument - private class vs. government in general.

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Ok, thanks.

One of the worst written stories in recent times…

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No one should read it.

It’s a terribly written book.

Obamacare is for all.

Tough read. The message is truth.

I’ll take your word for it.

The message is fantasy, not truth.

You may want it to be “true” - the same way college student communists want their utopian, idealistic views of Communism to be true.

But it’s not.

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Obamacare isn’t government coverage either. All the plans are offered by private companies not the government like Tricare or medicare

I thought that we are supposed to just worship King Donald.

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You were hoping I would say “the government”, weren’t you?

You deny there are producers and takers? That takers far out number the producers? You deny bureaucrats?

What exactly is fantasy?

You’re not stupid.

I don’t “hope” libs say things.

I deny that the dichotomy is valid or meaningful.

Everything.

It’s a story of rugged, manly men and strong but submissive women who build trains and forge steel defeating the evil government and the hordes of “takers”. It couldn’t possible be more of a fantasy cliche.

Your entire debating style is to constantly ask faux-socratic questions. You’re always looking for a certain answer.

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:rofl::rofl::rofl: how is it not valid? Meaningful?

You didn’t get the message.

I have.