On Inauguration Day if the leaks are right and given his predilection to holding press events opposite literally anything his political opponents do, I believe it.

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Neither one.

For starters, new studies suggest COVID was in the US in December.

That is three months before even the WHO declared a pandemic.

Unless Trump had a crystal ball which he gazed upon in December, there was nothing he could do, and he knew it.

There is a lot to nail Trump on, but even the Washington Post declared this covid stuff to be nothing more than propaganda at best.

The stuff on voter fraud will only be believed by idiots.

I’m going with #1. The covid lies will be short term and over in a few months. The lies about the election have opened the door for a future (competent) authoritarian to claim anything they want about elections and their followers will swallow it.

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Good post.

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Fair point.

:rofl: The Hoax!

Not to drift too far off topic, but the studies suggesting COVID was here last December resonates personally. Last year on Christmas morning I started feeling pretty ill, thought I had caught the flu. But I’d never felt anything like this - the night of Christmas I couldn’t lay in my bed because it felt like I was suffocating, ended up sleeping on the floor because it was the only way I could catch a breath. For the remainder of the week I dealt with a fever that would spike, diminish, then come roaring back. And I had a cough that reminded me of having bronchitis as a kid. Never been that wiped out by an illness before - it took a full month before I could even think about working out.

Sad thing is, even if it was COVID, apparently you aren’t permanently immune afterwards.

Agreed. Trump may have brought us to the tipping point, along with his willing accomplices, many of whom are right here on the forums.

Naw, the Collusion Delusion didn’t last but one cycle. Everybody know the dems have been ballot harvesting in cemeteries for years.

It’ll be fine.

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Imagine the media without him, that Trump bump will be gone. That is actually a good thing.

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Collusion is irrelevant. He is tearing down the institutions that keep this country in tact. The downward spiral may be unstoppable.

I don’t remember you saying that then.

I’m saying it now.

And I did talk about him tearing down our institutions of self government.

Imagine that.

Him? Him who? Mueller et al?

Ya I seen just as much damage done by idiots at the the local level, whether it was Cuomo in NYC. Or the idiotic mayor here (Summer of Love) that’s some high level thinking there.

They are now cutting funding to the police here by 15 to 20%, at a time when crime is at a 10 year high. As if anyone really needs a crystal ball to know what the outcome will be. No one asks “Hey we tried CHAD how did that work out der?” Five minorities shot while letting Antifa take over and run six blocks of downtown.

So while I wish Biden the best as he will be our president I have zero faith in the local politicians from the governor on down especially in my area. And down just down south Hp just left California (Another one gone :thinking:) how many needs to leave before they get a clue that there might polices that are running businesses away.

I feel sorry for Texas if anyone needs a wall it should be them barring Californians to move there and vote for the same politics that made them flee in the first place.

And we are told that the big named media companies like the NYT’s and WaPo tell the truth as well as are intelligent thinkers, then this.

These people are ever bit as ■■■■■■ in their thinking as the orange man. He messed up quiet a bit, he also stemmed the flow of illegal aliens and lowered my taxes, and didn’t get us into another war. The left wants to release felons, get rid of the police, and let anyone come right on in. Biden is going to rip up the Trump H1B slowdown, I might be a conservative but trust me on this one as someone in the field with a masters degree closing in on 14 years of work experience if you have children interested in the software field talk them out of it.

And were the only ones with some fruitcakes on our side :thinking: