Where did the Monsters we see in the Fossil Record Come from?

For man is so arrogant in his belief that by translating the original language into English and taking the English literally, he can accurately calculate the timeline used by God. In the nineteenth century and English Bishop, using the English language, made the calculation of six thousand years. In the 1970s a few fundamentalist Christians insisted the Bible be taken literally–which caught the imagination, not of the majority of Christians, but of atheists.

Quantum physics has introduced a “literal alternative” neither of your are considering. This is a matrix:

He is before all things, and in him all things hold together. (Col. 1:17 NIV)

For in him we live, and move, and have our being (Acts 17:28 KJV)

Then “stopping the sun” involves God thinking it, and it happens without any of the negative effects that would occur if it weren’t a matrix.

Creation “ex nihilo” (from nothing) implies it is a matrix.

So does the concept of God as omnipresent, but burning a match is not burning God. He is everywhere, but He is not part of the matrix. It exists like a “thought” in Mind, that doesn’t actually touch the organ of the brain.

Inflation could be explained similarly. The 80 billion light year large universe comes into existence in an instant (Gen. 1:1). with light existing everywhere. So light didn’t travel for 80 billion years to reach us from distant stars, it appeared here with the matrix as God “thunk it” into existence.

Instantly.

Continuing how “Matrix” permits literal interpretation in accord with reality:

13 And the stars of heaven fell to the earth, as a fig tree drops its late figs when it is shaken by a mighty wind.
14 Then the sky receded as a scroll when it is rolled up, and every mountain and island was moved out of its place.
15 And the kings of the earth, the great men, the rich men, the commanders, the mighty men, every slave and every free man, hid themselves in the caves and in the rocks of the mountains,
16 and said to the mountains and rocks, "Fall on us and hide us from the face of Him who sits on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb!
17 “For the great day of His wrath has come, and who is able to stand?”
(Rev. 6:13-17 NKJ)

“Stars” symbolize angels in the book of Revelation, so falling stars would be them falling out of the sky:

Then the fifth angel sounded: And I saw a star fallen from heaven to the earth. To him was given the key to the bottomless pit. (Rev. 9:1 NKJ)

The “mighty wind” then either is the Holy Spirit or Michael when he cast Satan and his angels out of heaven (Rev. 12:7).

The sky in our matrix could easily (literally) roll up like a scroll, that would certainly produce the terror described in the next verses

15 And the kings of the earth, the great men, the rich men, the commanders, the mighty men, every slave and every free man, hid themselves in the caves and in the rocks of the mountains,
16 and said to the mountains and rocks, "Fall on us and hide us from the face of Him who sits on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb!
17 “For the great day of His wrath has come, and who is able to stand?”
(Rev. 6:15-17 NKJ)

Talk to smyrna. He’s the one positing that God or the Devil or whatever setup a dinosaur bones scavenger hunt to confuse people.

Listen to Smyrna. He is all about faith and love of God–which ironically is what the Bible stories under discussion are about. The Catholic Church doesn’t care what people believe about how creation came about (instantaneously or evolution) but stresses faith in God and God’s love for mankind. Smyrna stresses faith and love of God. That–not the true age of the earth–has the most impact on his life. Actually, that is what has had the most impact on my life as well–not the fact that the earth is over four billion years old. That little tidbit has had no effect upon me at all. It is very interesting, it just hasn’t impacted my life. Faith has.

It was proposed. PROPOSED. As a possibility. Not as an assumption.

Adding to what was actually said is just creating your own strawman.

Then there’s nothing to discuss.

“WE” don’t have to assume anything. YOU have to assume it to force an argument that only naysayers here seem to want.

Ok. When it comes to the story of Job, what is your reference and how do you see the story?

Ok. So the Bible cannot be relied on to be literal and in many instances is allegorical.

Biblical scholars argue, heatedly, about what is supposed to be literal and what is meant to be allegorical.

Plus there is confusion on what is human written a SM what is inspired by God. It really is a mess if you ask me.

Dude, you need to chill. I understand this is a sensitive topic for you.

We just exploring s line of logic. If-then statements.

The bible.

Similar to what Meri describes.

You and I might agree to that. I stand by the position that it was never meant to be a literal read.

The Black Sea has two distinct layers of water – fresher water in one layer, and saltier water in the other. There is also evidence of past cities under the sea around the edges where the two layers meet. It points to evidence that the sea was once at that level, and then a sudden onrush of water filled it to its current level.

It’s possible that the Noah story (as well as other ancient cultures’ flood stories) were prompted by whatever phenomenon caused the sudden filling of the sea. It’s currently directly connected to Mediterranean Sea, but it may once have been separated by a land dam that broke and allowed sea water to fill it to the current level.

To the people and cultures that once populated the edge of the Black Sea, the event may have seemed like the whole earth was flooded. Note that the Genesis story says that not only was there rain, but that water flooded up from under the land. The breaking of a land dam allowing the Mediterranean to flood the sea to a new level could certainly appear to ancient people who were not near the collapse that water was flooding up from below. Today we can question whether there could ever have been enough water on the earth to cover it entirely. So yes, a LITERAL reading of the story is questionable. But that doesn’t preclude a catastrophic flood.

They once thought they died from a giant asteroid, but now they think it’s massive volcanic activity.
And some say the combination of the two. Others say a plague. All they really know is there was a massive extinction event some where around 65 million years ago.

Yes.

And at the same time, He DOES know the outcome. Yet still he can create that situation.

God is not limited by man’s logic.

Imagine that.

Yup.

Or intelligent design.

Cool. But no one is asking you.

You’ve made it clear throughout your posting history that you choose skepticism. You’re not saying anything new.

And you’re entitled to choose that. Others reject that.

You’ve also made it clear that no explanation is going to satisfy you, so wiser people recognize the futility of trying.

You’re creating your own line of logic, and then expecting others to answer to it.

You chill. Nobody wants to play your game.

I don’t disagree with you here. It does bring up the difficulty of when to take the Bible literally and when it is to be interpreted. Also brings into question whether it is all the inspired word of God.

An intelligent design that has transitionals? That’s not how ID is usually defined.

And … ???