What your socialist public school teacher did not teach your child about slavery in the U.S

And who ended the international slave trade in America?

JWK

Did Jefferson or did he not continue to profit off slavery?

Yes or no?

Seems to me, the miracle our founders created call the Constitution of the United States ___ that document which our communist/socialist propagandists in government operated schools teach our children is responsible for the sin of slavery in America ___ actually provided the means necessary to end the sin of British slavery in the United States.

JWK

The British themselves managed to eliminate it in their territories with no war.

Why couldn’t the Americans with their “miracle of a Constitution” do the same?

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You didn’t answer my question. Who ended the international slave trade in the United States?

JWK

UH… they did, by the Thirteenth Amendment. :roll_eyes:

JWK

I did answer your question and asked another one.

Why it is so difficult to admit that of all the modern nations that eliminated slavery, only the US had to do so via a massive war, I’ll never know.

Why this push, when supposedly we shouldn’t feel any responsibility for what our ancestors did 160 years ago, to devolve the guilt of slavery onto foreign nations, is beyond me.

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No- they did it with a massive war.

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No you didn’t.

Who ended the international slave trade in the United States?

JWK

I don’t know how old you are, but between my wife, myself and our kids, we cover more than 6 continuous decades of education.

Never once have we encountered this argument that human slavery was caused by the Constitution.

Where are you getting this?

The war encouraged ending slavery. But it was the Thirteenth Amendment that ended slavery.

JWK

The Thirteenth Amendment did nothing.

Lincoln didn’t even push for it to be adopted until he was fairly certain the US would win the war.

I have to admit this “Slavery wasn’t even an American thing…it was British” is being taken to a level here I’ve never quite seen before.

Again…if we’re not supposed to feel guilty over the sins of our ancestors, why this push to devolve the sin onto some other peoples?

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You never heard our Constitution condoned slavery?

JWK

As opposed to an outright outlawing? Or a leading by example?

:roll_eyes:

Thirteenth Amendment

Section 1

Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

Section 2

Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.

The Thirteenth Amendment ended slavery.

JWK

The Constitution tolerated it. It was written largely by and for slavers. Lots of people killed each other over the Constitution’s acceptance of slavery as a norm. And the 3/5 rule certainly rewarded slave owners and slave states with outsize power.

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If slavery had been immediately abolished, there might have been an argument that it wasn’t an American thing.

Instead, slave states were expanded westward, which JW very curiously ignores.

As for ancestral sin, this sure seems like an attempt to lampshade it.

Under your premise: Yay, we produced a document that provided a generally outline that possibly outlaw manstealin in a hundred years.

Is that your admission that the Constitution actually provided the means necessary to end the sin of British slavery in the United States, which a number of states already did upon gaining their freedom from English Rule?

JWK