And who ended the international slave trade in America?
JWK
And who ended the international slave trade in America?
JWK
Did Jefferson or did he not continue to profit off slavery?
Yes or no?
Seems to me, the miracle our founders created call the Constitution of the United States ___ that document which our communist/socialist propagandists in government operated schools teach our children is responsible for the sin of slavery in America ___ actually provided the means necessary to end the sin of British slavery in the United States.
JWK
The British themselves managed to eliminate it in their territories with no war.
Why couldnât the Americans with their âmiracle of a Constitutionâ do the same?
johnwk2:And who ended the international slave trade in America?
JWK
Did Jefferson or did he not continue to profit off slavery?
Yes or no?
You didnât answer my question. Who ended the international slave trade in the United States?
JWK
johnwk2: tzu:Afterward, did the formerly British plantation owners end slavery, with their newly wrought control of a third of a continent?
Seems to me, the miracle our founders created call the Constitution of the United States ___ that document which our communist/socialist propagandists in government operated schools teach our children is responsible for the sin of slavery in America ___ actually provided the means necessary to end the sin of British slavery in the United States.
JWK
The British themselves managed to eliminate it in their territories with no war.
Why couldnât the Americans with their âmiracle of a Constitutionâ do the same?
UH⌠they did, by the Thirteenth Amendment.
JWK
JayJay: johnwk2:And who ended the international slave trade in America?
JWK
Did Jefferson or did he not continue to profit off slavery?
Yes or no?
You didnât answer my question. Who ended the international slave trade in the United States?
JWK
I did answer your question and asked another one.
Why it is so difficult to admit that of all the modern nations that eliminated slavery, only the US had to do so via a massive war, Iâll never know.
Why this push, when supposedly we shouldnât feel any responsibility for what our ancestors did 160 years ago, to devolve the guilt of slavery onto foreign nations, is beyond me.
JayJay: johnwk2: tzu:Afterward, did the formerly British plantation owners end slavery, with their newly wrought control of a third of a continent?
Seems to me, the miracle our founders created call the Constitution of the United States ___ that document which our communist/socialist propagandists in government operated schools teach our children is responsible for the sin of slavery in America ___ actually provided the means necessary to end the sin of British slavery in the United States.
JWK
The British themselves managed to eliminate it in their territories with no war.
Why couldnât the Americans with their âmiracle of a Constitutionâ do the same?
UH⌠they did, by the Thirteenth Amendment.
JWK
No- they did it with a massive war.
I did answer your question
No you didnât.
Who ended the international slave trade in the United States?
JWK
I donât know how old you are, but between my wife, myself and our kids, we cover more than 6 continuous decades of education.
Never once have we encountered this argument that human slavery was caused by the Constitution.
Where are you getting this?
johnwk2: JayJay: johnwk2: tzu:Afterward, did the formerly British plantation owners end slavery, with their newly wrought control of a third of a continent?
Seems to me, the miracle our founders created call the Constitution of the United States ___ that document which our communist/socialist propagandists in government operated schools teach our children is responsible for the sin of slavery in America ___ actually provided the means necessary to end the sin of British slavery in the United States.
JWK
The British themselves managed to eliminate it in their territories with no war.
Why couldnât the Americans with their âmiracle of a Constitutionâ do the same?
UH⌠they did, by the Thirteenth Amendment.
JWK
No- they did it with a massive war.
The war encouraged ending slavery. But it was the Thirteenth Amendment that ended slavery.
JWK
The Thirteenth Amendment did nothing.
Lincoln didnât even push for it to be adopted until he was fairly certain the US would win the war.
I donât know how old you are, but between my wife, myself and our kids, we cover more than 6 continuous decades of education.
Never once have we encountered this argument that human slavery was caused by the Constitution.
Where are you getting this?
I have to admit this âSlavery wasnât even an American thingâŚit was Britishâ is being taken to a level here Iâve never quite seen before.
AgainâŚif weâre not supposed to feel guilty over the sins of our ancestors, why this push to devolve the sin onto some other peoples?
Never once have we encountered this argument that human slavery was caused by the Constitution.
You never heard our Constitution condoned slavery?
JWK
Seems to me, the miracle our founders created call the Constitution of the United States ___ that document which our communist/socialist propagandists in government operated schools teach our children is responsible for the sin of slavery in America ___ actually provided the means necessary to end the sin of British slavery in the United States.
JWK
As opposed to an outright outlawing? Or a leading by example?
The Thirteenth Amendment did nothing.
Thirteenth Amendment
Section 1
Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.
Section 2
Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.
The Thirteenth Amendment ended slavery.
JWK
The Constitution tolerated it. It was written largely by and for slavers. Lots of people killed each other over the Constitutionâs acceptance of slavery as a norm. And the 3/5 rule certainly rewarded slave owners and slave states with outsize power.
If slavery had been immediately abolished, there might have been an argument that it wasnât an American thing.
Instead, slave states were expanded westward, which JW very curiously ignores.
As for ancestral sin, this sure seems like an attempt to lampshade it.
The war encouraged ending slavery. But it was the Thirteenth Amendment that ended slavery.
Under your premise: Yay, we produced a document that provided a generally outline that possibly outlaw manstealin in a hundred years.
johnwk2:Seems to me, the miracle our founders created call the Constitution of the United States ___ that document which our communist/socialist propagandists in government operated schools teach our children is responsible for the sin of slavery in America ___ actually provided the means necessary to end the sin of British slavery in the United States.
JWK
As opposed to an outright outlawing? Or a leading by example?
Is that your admission that the Constitution actually provided the means necessary to end the sin of British slavery in the United States, which a number of states already did upon gaining their freedom from English Rule?
JWK