What would you change about elections?

STODR · 2024-05-28T17:24:04.767Z

Obviously you did read my post. Why am I surprised.

STODR:

You either have to be persecuted or fear of persecution in one of protected instances and not avail the protection of the state.

PurpnGold · 2024-05-28T17:25:51.566Z

STODR:

Obviously you did read my post. Why am I surprised.

STODR:

You either have to be persecuted or fear of persecution in one of protected instances and not avail the protection of the state.

You are making a point that I am not making…

My position is simple… you do not need the government to persecute you in order to claim asylum.

STODR · 2024-05-28T17:28:43.055Z

No you need them to persecute or fail to provide the protection. IE it is all about the government actions. You are playing stupid word games.

PurpnGold · 2024-05-28T17:32:32.423Z

STODR:

No you need them to persecute or fail to provide the protection. IE it is all about the government actions. You are playing stupid word games.

Have you looked at the application for US asylum yet? Might help you a bit

STODR · 2024-05-28T17:36:59.827Z

Didn’t have to I looked up the law. I posted the exact quote from it. An application is not the law. It starts the process. Then they have to prove what I posted through the credible fear screening. If an application is all that was needed there would be no need for a hearing. Tell us what in the application voids the actual law?

Ben_Natuf · 2024-05-28T17:53:19.659Z

PurpnGold:

Wait what? Again where does it say government must be the one persecuting

do keep up. I said over and over again either the government persecuting them OR the government failing to protect them from persecution

PurpnGold · 2024-05-28T17:56:43.696Z

Ben_Natuf:

I said over and over again either the government persecuting them

This part is nowhere to be found in the actual law.

Ben_Natuf:

the government failing to protect them from persecution

This part is… but I never disputed this part.

Ben_Natuf · 2024-05-28T17:57:36.621Z

PurpnGold:

This part is nowhere to be found in the actual law.

yes, it is, just before the “fail to protect” Might help f you actually read it

PurpnGold · 2024-05-28T17:57:38.786Z

STODR:

Didn’t have to I looked up the law. I posted the exact quote from it. An application is not the law. It starts the process. Then they have to prove what I posted through the credible fear screening. If an application is all that was needed there would be no need for a hearing. Tell us what in the application voids the actual law?

The application says nothing about government persecution. Neither does the actual law.

That’s been my only point.

Ben_Natuf · 2024-05-28T18:00:49.665Z

your only point has been your poor reading comprehension?

okay

Oldandtired · 2024-05-28T18:01:25.750Z

Yes according to our asylum law.

thinkingman · 2024-05-28T18:02:10.313Z

PurpnGold:

The application says nothing about government persecution. Neither does the actual law.

That’s been my only point.

then who is doing all the persecution of those coming into this country claiming “asylum” ?

WuWei · 2024-05-28T18:03:02.172Z

PurpnGold:

The judge will ultimately determine eligibility.

They aren’t judges.

Oldandtired · 2024-05-28T18:03:32.119Z

Democrats like to pretend they are not elections deniers and that they have in the past tried to overturn elections.

WuWei · 2024-05-28T18:03:40.641Z

PurpnGold:

Here is a hint, it doesn’t require your country of origin government to do anything directly to you.

Mmmmmmm

PurpnGold · 2024-05-28T18:04:40.215Z

Ben_Natuf:

your only point has been your poor reading comprehension?

okay

This is projecting. You are the only one adding words into law that do not exist.

Persecution is not limited to just the government. It could be anyone in that country.

thinkingman · 2024-05-28T18:05:12.268Z

Oldandtired:

Democrats like to pretend they are not elections deniers and that they have in the past tried to overturn elections.

oh true they do indeed.

what’s crazy is that they prob dont even realize they do. this detachment from reality is part of their pathology

Ben_Natuf · 2024-05-28T18:05:54.658Z

wrong. it could be anyone in that country AND the government failing to protect you

Nice to see you’ve finally admitted that the government itself doing it is actually in the law. Progress!

WuWei · 2024-05-28T18:06:05.799Z

Ben_Natuf:

who in mexico is being persecuted for religion, politics, race or ethnicity?

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PurpnGold · 2024-05-28T18:06:17.672Z

thinkingman:

PurpnGold:

The application says nothing about government persecution. Neither does the actual law.

That’s been my only point.

then who is doing all the persecution of those coming into this country claiming “asylum” ?

Could be the government, could be a neighbor, could be an employer, could be a gang, cartel, etc.