What will be the impact of the courts decision today on Affirmative Action?

[Call_me_Ishmael]

@Munimula1

I think of it more as a sort of reparations.

So we all paid our reparations then . Cool. Dont want to hear any more about “reparations”.

[Orygun]

As a lefty I am actually torn about this. Frankly I would rather admission exceptions could be made based on socioeconomic status rather than race. Like why should a wealthy black or latino kid get preferential treatment?

But if academia wants to serve a broader population they could make enrollment exceptions for those who are poor- whether they are white, brown or what have you. I suppose they already do this with scholarships and grants, but not with admissions as far as I know?

[Munimula1]

@Orygun

Frankly I would rather admission exceptions could be made based on socioeconomic status rather than race.

Yes- maybe they’ll do this now.

[DougBH]

@Orygun

Distinct interests?

From the article:

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However, the Court specifically exempted the military academies from its decision on race-based affirmative action. The majority opinion, written by Chief Justice John Roberts, said in a footnote that this policy would not impact how military service academies approached admissions, citing “distinct interests” those institutions have.

A long standing deference to the executive in military matters.

Category: Military Deference Doctrine

[Orygun]

If they made 10 % quotas for super poor kids, would that be unconstitutional under the 14th amendment for violating the rights of wealthier kids?

[Munimula1]

@Orygun

If they made 10 % quotas for super poor kids, would that be unconstitutional under the 14th amendment for violating the rights of wealthier kids?

IDK- ask Clarence Thomas. Probably yes.

[Orygun]

@DougBH

A long standing deference to the executive in military matters.

Mmmmm…no. The Supreme Court has ruled on a number of issues related to military matters. Thats not it.

[WuWei]

@Orygun

It should be interesting to see what happens over the next 5-10 years in terms of enrollment. I assume asian and white folks will still be well represented. Quite possible that there will be declining black, indigenous and hispanic numbers. Just have to wait and see.

Stop looking at race and look at cognitive ability.

[WuWei]

I’m a liberal. Bad ruling.

[WuWei]

@Orygun

Frankly I would rather admission exceptions could be made based on socioeconomic status rather than race. Like why should a wealthy black or latino kid get preferential treatment?

The smartest one should get preferential treatment. Climb out of the race hole.

[Orygun]

@WuWei

The smartest one should get preferential treatment. Climb out of the race hole.

Ummm I specifically said I would be fine with moving away from race. The smartest ones will always get preferential treatment. The wealthy do too with “legacy based admissions”.

[Orygun]

@WuWei

I’m a liberal. Bad ruling.

Why do you think the SC carved it out?

[WuWei]

@Orygun

The smartest ones will always get preferential treatmen

No, they don’t.

[WuWei]

@Orygun

@WuWei

I’m a liberal. Bad ruling.

Why do you think the SC carved it out?

My guess is it has to do with the color of the officer’s corps.

[Orygun]

@WuWei

@Orygun

The smartest ones will always get preferential treatmen

No, they don’t.

You’re right its the kids with Cs and Ds that are mostly getting into the top schools

[Orygun]

@WuWei

My guess is it has to do with the color of the officer’s corps.

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[WuWei]

It’s the kids with the As, A- and B+ depending on their race.

[WuWei]

@Orygun

@WuWei

My guess is it has to do with the color of the officer’s corps.

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You don’t understand that?

[Samm]

@Guilds

@TheRedComet

The goal is to destroy the entire idea of race.

I do not think that is possible…well, for not for a few 1000 years…can’t erase 10’s of 1000’s of years of evolution in a few generations…

Sure you could. All you have to do is prevent reproduction by same race couples. Within 5 or 6 generations every living human would be a person of color. In another 5 or 6 generations, they would all be of essentially the same color.

But being human, I am absolutely certain they would still find differences between each other on which to base discrimination.

[Samm]

@WuWei

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