What to do with the "savings" from A-stan

[FloridaYankee]

@zantax

@FloridaYankee

@zantax

You don’t need much maintenance on a new concrete house. And even if you think they need services afterwards to remain in the home, they still need a home first.

I know they need services afterwards. I wasn’t talking so much about maintenance so much as budgeting and paying bills and such. Those systems have to be in place BEFORE giving them homes.

Set up a solar panel farm to give them free electricity. Give them city garbage collection. What else do they need?

Counseling, therapy, medications, wellness visits, legal representation for many, a way to earn some spending money at the very least, jobs and job training and probably a dozen other things… They are homeless for a reason for the most part. A significant number may have simply fallen on hard times and be fine with just giving them a place to lay their heads, but the majority are not.

[zantax]

@FloridaYankee

@zantax

@FloridaYankee

@zantax

You don’t need much maintenance on a new concrete house. And even if you think they need services afterwards to remain in the home, they still need a home first.

I know they need services afterwards. I wasn’t talking so much about maintenance so much as budgeting and paying bills and such. Those systems have to be in place BEFORE giving them homes.

Set up a solar panel farm to give them free electricity. Give them city garbage collection. What else do they need?

Counseling, therapy, medications, wellness visits, legal representation for many, a way to earn some spending money at the very least, jobs and job training and probably a dozen other things… They are homeless for a reason for the most part. A significant number may have simply fallen on hard times and be fine with just giving them a place to lay their heads, but the majority are not.

Needing any or all of that does not negate a need for a warm, safe and comfortable place to sleep at night.

[FloridaYankee]

@zantax

@FloridaYankee

@zantax

@FloridaYankee

@zantax

You don’t need much maintenance on a new concrete house. And even if you think they need services afterwards to remain in the home, they still need a home first.

I know they need services afterwards. I wasn’t talking so much about maintenance so much as budgeting and paying bills and such. Those systems have to be in place BEFORE giving them homes.

Set up a solar panel farm to give them free electricity. Give them city garbage collection. What else do they need?

Counseling, therapy, medications, wellness visits, legal representation for many, a way to earn some spending money at the very least, jobs and job training and probably a dozen other things… They are homeless for a reason for the most part. A significant number may have simply fallen on hard times and be fine with just giving them a place to lay their heads, but the majority are not.

Needing any or all of that does not negate a need for a warm, safe and comfortable place to sleep at night.

Of course not and I’m all in on such a program, let’s do it.

[zantax]

Not how it works, government rarely actually does much good for people. If it ever gets done it will probably be done by a charity or non profit.

[FloridaYankee]

@zantax

Not how it works, government rarely actually does much good for people. If it ever gets done it will probably be done by a charity or non profit.

There are pilot programs out there that have had good success already, though they are rather selective in which homeless get a free home.

[FloridaYankee]

@zantax

Not how it works, government rarely actually does much good for people. If it ever gets done it will probably be done by a charity or non profit.

Also, maybe it’s time the govt. (probably local with some federal funds) took an active role in it, perhaps funding said non profits et al.

[DisturbedGuy]

@zantax

How weird is it that we have people actually arguing giving the homeless homes won’t solve the homelessness problem. Print them a tiny concrete house, can be done for under 10k, homelessness conquered.

Even at $10,000 each, 1 billion dollars gets you 100,000 units. You could give all homeless vets a fresh start and still have 60,000 units left for others.

[sikofit]

@NJBob

Drugs or no, all homeless need to get off the street first.

Agreed. But if the choice is choosing between being able to get those not on drugs get off the street and not helping anyone I’d choose the former. Then regroup and try to hold the rest. Republicans are not going allow us to help them all in one shot

[NJBob]

@DisturbedGuy

@zantax

How weird is it that we have people actually arguing giving the homeless homes won’t solve the homelessness problem. Print them a tiny concrete house, can be done for under 10k, homelessness conquered.

Even at $10,000 each, 1 billion dollars gets you 100,000 units. You could give all homeless vets a fresh start and still have 60,000 units left for others.

It would work best if the houses/apartments were made available with the possibility of ownership. Say, live there for 5 years, and get treatment and counseling, and the unit is yours. After that they could sell and move up to a bigger, better home, if they are working and making enough money.

Get the homeless on the track to being integrated into society. There’s nothing like pride of ownership.

[sikofit]

@zantax

How weird is it that we have people actually arguing giving the homeless homes won’t solve the homelessness problem. Print them a tiny concrete house, can be done for under 10k, homelessness conquered.

Who is arguing that? I think its a great idea and should definitely be implemented. But also imo complexes are a more economical solution. Here in California the most experience aspect of new construction is the land below the foundation

[sikofit]

@DisturbedGuy

@zantax

How weird is it that we have people actually arguing giving the homeless homes won’t solve the homelessness problem. Print them a tiny concrete house, can be done for under 10k, homelessness conquered.

Even at $10,000 each, 1 billion dollars gets you 100,000 units. You could give all homeless vets a fresh start and still have 60,000 units left for others.

All for about 1% of the cost of the weapons we gave the Afghan Army or spent in a year over there

[zantax]

@sikofit

@zantax

How weird is it that we have people actually arguing giving the homeless homes won’t solve the homelessness problem. Print them a tiny concrete house, can be done for under 10k, homelessness conquered.

Who is arguing that? I think its a great idea and should definitely be implemented. But also imo complexes are a more economical solution. Here in California the most experience aspect of new construction is the land below the foundation

What is the cost per housing unit?

[WuWei]

@zantax

How weird is it that we have people actually arguing giving the homeless homes won’t solve the homelessness problem. Print them a tiny concrete house, can be done for under 10k, homelessness conquered.

They’ve been given homes in the past.

[zantax]

@WuWei

@zantax

How weird is it that we have people actually arguing giving the homeless homes won’t solve the homelessness problem. Print them a tiny concrete house, can be done for under 10k, homelessness conquered.

They’ve been given homes in the past.

Give them one more, after that if they are found living on the streets, jail them for vagrancy.

[WuWei]

@zantax

@WuWei

@zantax

How weird is it that we have people actually arguing giving the homeless homes won’t solve the homelessness problem. Print them a tiny concrete house, can be done for under 10k, homelessness conquered.

They’ve been given homes in the past.

Give them one more, after that if they are found living on the streets, jail them for vagrancy.

That’s what we said last time.

[zantax]

I can only suggest solutions, not make anyone implement them.

[WuWei]

@zantax

I can only suggest solutions, not make anyone implement them.

It wasn’t a solution then, why would it be now?

[zantax]

@WuWei

@zantax

I can only suggest solutions, not make anyone implement them.

It wasn’t a solution then, why would it be now?

If implemented it would be a solution. If they tried it before I have to assume at some point they stopped, otherwise all the homeless would be in jail.