So, they get a free ride while everyone else contributes to the funding of government?
JWK
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How would the unemployed pay income taxes… without… income… because they are unemployed?
Do wage earners get to deduct their expenses and outlays as do those who are taxed on “capital gains”?
JWK
We are talking about everyone contributing a fair share in funding the federal government.
JWK
Again… how would someone without income pay income taxes?
Do teenagers need to pay income taxes when they become work eligible, but have no job?
So, wage earners get to deduct the value of the eight hours they invest in earning a wage? How about the cost of their transportation to work, the food which fuels their body during work, and all other outlays a wage earner invests in earning a wage. Do they get to deduct that too?
JWK
I thought we were talking about everyone contributing a fair share in support of government. Are you suggesting some people get forced to contribute to funding the federal government while others get a free ride?
JWK
Yes, teenagers are a prime example…
How would they pay income taxes without income?
We are talking about supporting our federal government. They could provide their labor.
How was everyone paying their “fair share” in supporting our federal government without “income taxes”?
JWK
How young should we go?
Free government mandated labor is called something… I feel like we’ve tried that before.
Well, I think above 21 years
The fact is, as I previously pointed out, there was a time in our country when everyone, even the unemployed, were expected and required to contribute an equal share in meeting the expenses of government. A wonderful example of this principle is exhibited in the public laws of Maryland’s Dorchester County, under which all able bodied residents of the county above twenty and under fifty years of age were “compelled to labor two days at least in every year in repairing the roads of said county, with the privilege, however, of furnishing a substitute or paying to the road supervisors seventy-five cents for each day such person may be summoned to labor, the money thus paid to be expended in repairing the roads.”
And the law went on to indicate that “anyone neglecting or refusing to perform such labor, or to provide a substitute, or to pay seventy-five cents per day for each and every day he may be summoned to work, shall be guilty of a misdemeanor, and upon trial and conviction before a Justice of the Peace, shall be fined seventy-five cents for each day`s delinquency and costs, and shall stand committed until the fine and costs are paid.”___ SEE SHORT vs. STATE OF MARYLAND, decided February 27th, 1895, upholding the law and not violating (a) the 13th or 14th Amendments to the Constitution of the United States, or (b) the 40th section of Art. 3 of the Constitution of Maryland.
JWK
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Does some one give you cookie every time you say that?
(they are both income)
Yup. Confiscating a portion of a wage earners labor by means of taxation is called something as you correctly point out.
JWK
“The property which every man has in his own labor, as it is the original foundation of all other property, so it is the most sacred and inviolable. The patrimony of the poor man lies in the strength and dexterity of his own hands; and to hinder him from employing this strength and dexterity in what manner he thinks proper, without injury to his neighbor, is a plain violation of this most sacred property.” ___ Butchers’ Union Co. v. Crescent City Co., 111 U.S. 746 (1884)
And what are the characteristics which define “income”?
JWK
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Income: money received, especially on a regular basis, for work or through investments.
I asked what are the “characteristics” which define “income”.
JWK
Samm
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The point is that people with a plan and ambition will find a way to get it done whether government is there or not.
Samm
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You’re still making the same mistake. Wealth is not a fixed amount. The rich getting richer does not prevent you from getting rich.
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