What liability will there be for transgender treatments on minors?

[FloridaYankee]

@Bill.in.PA

The point is that if you refuse to “transition” your child, the state will put the child into foster care or force treatment.

Please read the link in the last post. Here is an excerpt:

Dr. Johanna Olson-Kennedy, a California physician who specializes in transgendering youth, concurred. “We work really hard to bring both parents in and bring them both on board,” Olson-Kennedy told the questioner, “so it’s not my first line to go to court to get somebody what they need. But it is my second line and I will do it.”

That post wasn’t up when I commented. Some of those parents deserved to have their children taken, and as a parent I don’t say that lightly, but certainly not all of them. This sounds like something that should go all the way to SCOTUS as the general subject of parental rights and where they end has been brewing for some time now. I think in the long run it will get straightened out, not that that does much good for the present.

[FloridaYankee]

@LucyLou

The American College of Pediatricians are not the American Academy of Pediatrics. They are a conservative advocacy group. They are vehemently anti gay. They don’t want gay people to marry or be parents. They want conversion therapy for gay teens. And on and on

That does change things a bit, but an unjust law is an unjust law. Parents forcing their kids into conversion therapy may be subject to losing parental rights as well, wonder if the thought of that……………

[WuWei]

@Bill.in.PA

The minor is consenting.

Note they are not responsible enough to order a beer at a bar or do any number of other things.

Their society has decided a 12 year-old can give consent for elective medical treatment?

[Bill.in.PA]

The question from the OP is what sort of liability should professionals, such as Dr. Olson-Kennedy, have when patients later decide that transgendering treatments were a mistake?

Sex reassignment surgery is the most extreme treatment, but others have risks as well. For example, female hormones used in some treatments have been shown to increase risk of cancer, heart disease, and other problems in menopausal women:

Menopausal Hormone Therapy and Cancer

Who pays for the long-term damages from government-mandated transgendering treatments?

[WuWei]

@WorldWatcher

@Bill.in.PA

California recently passed a law that allows government-funded transgender treatments on minors without parental consent. It came over the objections of the American College of Pediatricians:

You left out an important point in the OP, the bill only applies to minors in Foster Care. It is not a general law applicable to the population at large.

When in Foster Care the Department of Social Services (or whatever they call it in California) is acting in loco parentis

Just noting for clarity.

(Personally, not a fan of the idea of gender reassignment surgery prior to the age of maturity.)
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Their society has decided a 12 year-old from a broken home can give consent for elective medical treatment?

[WuWei]

@Bill.in.PA

The point is that if you refuse to “transition” your child, the state will put the child into foster care or force treatment.

Please read the link in the last post. Here is an excerpt:

Dr. Johanna Olson-Kennedy, a California physician who specializes in transgendering youth, concurred. “We work really hard to bring both parents in and bring them both on board,” Olson-Kennedy told the questioner, “so it’s not my first line to go to court to get somebody what they need. But it is my second line and I will do it.”

That is astounding to me.

[Bill.in.PA]

Yes, at least for transgendering. Abortions are another case where minors don’t need their parents’ permission.

Of course really important medical decisions like getting your ears pierced require parental consent.

[WuWei]

@Bill.in.PA

Yes, at least for transgendering. Abortions are another case where minors don’t need their parents permission.

Of course really important medical decisions like getting your ears pierced require parental consent.

What a garbage society.

[Bill.in.PA]

Yep, if you take your confused son to the wrong doctor, he may come back as a she. No parental consent required.

[sikofit]

@Bill.in.PA

Yep, if you take your confused son to the wrong doctor, he make come back as a she. No parental consent required.

Wrong. Nothing in your article states anything of the sort

[WorldWatcher]

@WuWei

Their society has decided a 12 year-old can give consent for elective medical treatment?

@WuWei

Their society has decided a 12 year-old from a broken home can give consent for elective medical treatment?

Nope, the law allows 12 year olds in Foster Care to seek counseling.
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[Camp]

This is child abuse.

A sorrowful degradation in allowing kids to just be kids.

[altair1013]

@Bill.in.PA

California recently passed a law that allows government-funded transgender treatments on minors without parental consent.

I’m guessing that this means that the government will be fully funding cancer treatment for children too?

[gooddad409]

@LucyLou

@Bill.in.PA

California recently passed a law that allows government-funded transgender treatments on minors without parental consent. It came over the objections of the American College of Pediatricians:

The American College of Pediatricians cited a number of statistics in favor of their position against the bill, including the fact that roughly 88 percent of gender dsyphoric girls and 98 percent of gender dysphoric boys will, if given time, go on to identify with their biological sex by late adolescence.

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/briannaheldt/2018/09/27/new-california-law-allows-children-to-get-transgender-treatments-without-parental-consent-n2522928

Those statistics agree with this report from Britain:
'Hundreds' of young trans people seeking help to return to original sex | UK News | Sky News

My opinion is that malpractice suits related to sex reassignment surgery and related treatments will be the next big growth industry.

What liability should doctors and other professionals have when they make permanent changes to a teenager’s anatomy?

What requirements should there be to confirm a gender identity is really permanent before surgery?

The American College of Pediatricians are not the American Academy of Pediatrics. They are a conservative advocacy group. They are vehemently anti gay. They don’t want gay people to marry or be parents. They want conversion therapy for gay teens. And on and on.

It’s a sick and twisted law.

[Bill.in.PA]

Please see the quote from Dr. Olson-Kennedy in post 18 from the link in post 16. The doctor claims to work with parents, but she admits that she will get the courts to order transgendering treatments if parents don’t agree.

What is next? Will child protective services come for the other kids in the same family?

Is failure to agree to government-mandated treatments evidence of an “abusive” home environment?

[sikofit]

@Bill.in.PA

The doctor claims to work with parents, but she admits that she will get the courts to order transgendering treatments if parents don’t agree.

Can you cite even a single case where that actually happened? Im betting not

[Auto129]

@Bill.in.PA

Is failure to agree to government-mandated treatments evidence of an “abusive” home environment?

Sometimes.

[Auto129]

That’s the ideal situation even without transgender stuff involved.

[Bill.in.PA]

Most likely yes. California tax dollars at work!

[Bill.in.PA]

Here is one example:

Parents Lose Custody of Daughter for Opposing Transgender Medical Treatments

Realize that fighting the state in court is difficult and expensive, and the laws are rapidly evolving. There may be many more cases that have not made into the courts.