What is the solution to Israel and Palestinian conflict?

[biggestal99]

Ever hear of the Deir Yassin massacre.

Bloody hands on both sides.

A pox on both their houses.

Allan

[Axxowiz]

Hamas is no way in any part the good guys unless maybe if they were fighting ISIS they are really that low on the bar. Obviously I have sympathy for the citizens of Palestine who have to deal with this, but they elected the beast, not sure if they can get rid of Hamas now even if they wanted to.

[Samson_Corwell]

@peek-a-boo

@Samson_Corwell

I actually think I’m supporting Hamas’ tactics? Hogwash.

You might not think you are supporting Hamas’ tactics, but by faithfully regurgitating their propaganda, that is exactly what you are doing.

I’ve never read or listened to any material from Hamas. The position I have defended here is one I developed outside of this context.

[peek-a-boo]

@Samson_Corwell

The position I have defended here is one I developed outside of this context.

And yet it is in lock step with Hamas’s propaganda. Go figure.

[Samson_Corwell]

@peek-a-boo

@Samson_Corwell

The position I have defended here is one I developed outside of this context.

And yet it is in lock step with Hamas’s propaganda. Go figure.

Mao: “I like kittens.”

You: “Anyone who likes kittens is in lockstep with Maoist thought.”

[peek-a-boo]

@Samson_Corwell

Mao: “I like kittens.”

You: “Anyone who likes kittens is in lockstep with Maoist thought.”

No it doesn’t.

With your comments, your sympathies obviously rest with Hamas’s actions over Israel. This has nothing to do with whether someone in Hamas might or might not like kittens.

[TheRedComet]

Nothing the Irgun did compares to the 1936 Arab revolt if we are talking about crimes against humanity.

[Paul_Thomson]

@bigtwnvin

Interesting observation. Why then do maniacs like Hezbolla, Hamas and the Mad Moolahs not only deny the existence of the State of Israel but want to eradicate every Jewish life on the planet?

Because the Qur’an says in some places to compel whoever rejects Muhammed to submit to Islam, and if they will not, slay them. They feel the same about every worldview that is not qur’anic.

[Samson_Corwell]

@peek-a-boo

@Samson_Corwell

Mao: “I like kittens.”

You: “Anyone who likes kittens is in lockstep with Maoist thought.”

No it doesn’t.

With your comments, your sympathies obviously rest with Hamas’s actions over Israel. This has nothing to do with whether someone in Hamas might or might not like kittens.

My position is that killing human shields to get to the bad guy is wrong. No mention of place or time. If we were in the 1970s, then maybe this would in reference to the Vietnam War. If this were the 2000s, then maybe this would be in reference to the Iraq War.

[TheRedComet]

When your opponent forces you into these circumstances, what must be done must be done.

It is naive to think otherwise.

War is ugly. And humans have to do things that are… ugly… to end it as quickly as possible to minimize the suffering.

[W_and_C]

@Samson_Corwell

@peek-a-boo

@Samson_Corwell

Mao: “I like kittens.”

You: “Anyone who likes kittens is in lockstep with Maoist thought.”

No it doesn’t.

With your comments, your sympathies obviously rest with Hamas’s actions over Israel. This has nothing to do with whether someone in Hamas might or might not like kittens.

My position is that killing human shields to get to the bad guy is wrong. No mention of place or time. If we were in the 1970s, then maybe this would in reference to the Vietnam War. If this were the 2000s, then maybe this would be in reference to the Iraq War.

I mean, can you give an example of any militarized conflict since inception of civilization that didn’t have some civilian casualties ? Especially when conducted in urban areas. I’ve already mentioned the carpet bombing of Berlin in 1945 earlier.

[Tom_Ch]

@TheRedComet

When your opponent forces you into these circumstances, what must be done must be done.

It is naive to think otherwise.

War is ugly. And humans have to do things that are… ugly… to end it as quickly as possible to minimize the suffering.

When your opponent forces you into these circumstances, what must be done must be done.

I guess hamas is taking your advice too. The opponent for Hamas is Israel. Hamas is doing what must be done by using human shields. That is sad. It would seem that the good guy can stand out and make the right decision.

[TheRedComet]

No one is forced to use human shields.

There’s no moral equivalence there. At all.

[conan]

So what…

[peek-a-boo]

@Tom_Ch

It would seem that the good guy can stand out and make the right decision.

And exactly what decision would that be?

[peek-a-boo]

@Samson_Corwell

My position is that killing human shields to get to the bad guy is wrong.

Exactly what Hamas and all other terrorist thugs are hoping. They are counting on you and others like you to support their actions.

[biggestal99]

@TheRedComet

Nothing the Irgun did compares to the 1936 Arab revolt if we are talking about crimes against humanity

The king David hotel bombing comes to mind.

Dirty hands on both sides.

Whose hands are dirtier?

That won’t be decided in this forum.

Allan

[Samson_Corwell]

@TheRedComet

When your opponent forces you into these circumstances, what must be done must be done.

It is naive to think otherwise.

War is ugly. And humans have to do things that are… ugly… to end it as quickly as possible to minimize the suffering.

Cool tautology.

[biggestal99]

Why did Israeli troops enter a mosque to shut down loud speakers that call Muslims to prayer.

So that the Israeli president could speak without interruption at the west wall.

That’s kinda lame and not enlightened.

Allan

[biggestal99]

What does hamas shoot rockets at Israeli civilians?

Not enlightened.

Allan