What is the solution to Israel and Palestinian conflict?

[peek-a-boo]

@Guvnah

Libs have ignored this question which has been asked repeatedly in this thread. They just go back to carrying the terrorists’ water like good dutiful libs should.

Mind boggling to me. Hamas uses human shields because they know the resulting deaths will be played endlessly in the LIB dominated media.

Over and over again.

If these thugs were called out and soundly condemned by everyone, they would find other means and the use of human shields would stop.

But LIBs being LIBs, they simply can’t help themselves.

And so it continues.

[WuWei]

What a stupid thing to say…

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/white-house-journalists-safety-is-paramount-after-gaza-building-bombed/ar-BB1gLCnQ

The safety of of journalist is absolutely not “paramount” to anything or anyone except journalists.

AP trying to claim they didn’t know HAMAS was in the building? Horse hockey.

[Tom_Ch]

@peek-a-boo

@Tom_Ch

Then don’t claim to be holier than thou when collateral damage is fine. All it does is create more terrorists.

The old chicken and egg argument. Using your argument, terrorists never existed until we started indiscriminately killing civilians. Cut me a break.

I guess 2 wrong do make a right. You win!

[gooddad409]

@Ben_Natuf

the problem will be solved when the gaza residents choose to rise up against the terrorist they themselves have empowered.

the way to do this is to increasingly isolate them and cut them off from iran. when they finally realize this path has no good end… maybe

I doubt it ever happens… Arabs have been hating the Jews all the way back to Ishmael.

It has nothing to do with the land. The land is just the latest excuse.

[peek-a-boo]

@Tom_Ch

I guess 2 wrong do make a right. You win!

Mine was a tongue in cheek sarcastic remark. We don’t indiscriminately kill innocent civilians. Terrorists have an agenda and it has nothing to do with us killing people they care nothing about.

[peek-a-boo]

@gooddad409

I doubt it ever happens… Arabs have been hating the Jews all the way back to Ishmael.

It has nothing to do with the land. The land is just the latest excuse.

Islam is about being the one and only true religion. Infidels who don’t subscribe must be crushed. Israel and western civilization in general are infidels.

[WuWei]

@peek-a-boo

Islam is about being the one and only true religion.

Aren’t they all?

[peek-a-boo]

@WuWei

Aren’t they all?

Some are. But today, Christians aren’t looking to take over the world and force Christianity down everyone’s throat. Israel isn’t looking to wipe Muslims off the face of the earth.

[WuWei]

@peek-a-boo

Some are. But today, Christians aren’t looking to take over the world and force Christianity down everyone’s throat. Israel isn’t looking to wipe Muslims off the face of the earth.

No? Are you sure? You went from “religion” to Christians. Are they the same thing?

I agree with your last sentence.

[peek-a-boo]

@WuWei

No? Are you sure?

Christians have outreach programs. They would like to convert everyone, peacefully. And that is the big difference. Most religions today preach peaceful coexistence. Islam is a notable exception, responsible for much of the carnage we see in the Middle East today.

[WuWei]

@peek-a-boo

@WuWei

No? Are you sure?

Christians have outreach programs. They would like to convert everyone, peacefully. And that is the big difference. Most religions today preach peaceful coexistence. Islam is a notable exception, responsible for much of the carnage we see today.

Might want to look at what some “religions” are doing in the name of religion.

[peek-a-boo]

@WuWei

Might want to look at what some “religions” are doing in the name of religion.

On a scale that pales in comparison to what Muslims are doing to themselves and to others.

[WuWei]

Christians don’t really have anything to do with this conflict. We best get back on topic.

[Tom_Ch]

@peek-a-boo

@gooddad409

I doubt it ever happens… Arabs have been hating the Jews all the way back to Ishmael.

It has nothing to do with the land. The land is just the latest excuse.

Islam is about being the one and only true religion. Infidels who don’t subscribe must be crushed. Israel and western civilization in general are infidels.

Every major religion believe this about themselves. The only one I know that doesn’t is Buddhism.

[peek-a-boo]

Already had this conversation with Sneaky.

[peek-a-boo]

@WuWei

Christians don’t really have anything to do with this conflict. We best get back on topic

I mentioned Christianity simply as an example. Agree it isn’t relevant to the topic and will move on.

[gooddad409]

@peek-a-boo

@gooddad409

I doubt it ever happens… Arabs have been hating the Jews all the way back to Ishmael.

It has nothing to do with the land. The land is just the latest excuse.

Islam is about being the one and only true religion. Infidels who don’t subscribe must be crushed. Israel and western civilization in general are infidels.

It goes back even farther than Islam i think. That’s why i said arabs instead of Islam.

Back to the rejected Ishmael imo.

[mbus]

These are the three realities creating this epic conflict.

-Israel isn’t going away.
-Israel will never engage in total war to gain a lasting victory.
-Those Palestinians and their state sponsors bent on the destruction of Israel will never surrender in their efforts.

This leaves two options: brave, self-sacrificing, violence-exhausted, peace-loving heroes on both sides seeking a solution. Or accept that this status quo is, in fact, the best it’s going to get. The solution. A detente with periodic, horrible, tragic flareups.

And the fact the Palestinians rejected an offer that could have helped is irrelevant. Same with the legitimacy of Israel. Those are in the past. So just try again, and again and again.

[peek-a-boo]

In my opinion it will continue to escalate over time as Hamas gets more powerful and accurate weapons from Iran. Iran is the real issue here. While they are in no position to directly challenge Israel, their proxies can inflict a lot of pain.

Hamas today is more powerful than they were in 2014. In the very near future this will once again result in a temporary null in the fighting. In a few more years, Hamas will once again flex their muscles with more modern technology. At some point, I believe Israel will have no choice but to reoccupy Gaza.

[Supreme_War_Pig]

@WuWei

@Supreme_War_Pig

Nope. The Abraham Accords entirely ignored that Palestinians, absolutely guaranteeing this whole mess would kick off again.

But essential to making a change in the region.

I agree, but the poster has claimed several times that “this wouldn’t happen under Trump” and “Trump brought peace” neither of which is remotely true vis a vis the Palestinians