What is the Antidote? Let's try this again

[Konssurvative1]

The problem has always been how the ignorant react to the constant garage of the message.

Just so we are clear. Ignorant= those who do not lift a finger to verify the truth, seek the truth and only accept the message because it comes from their belief system or political side.

[hindsight]

@Call_me_Ishmael

His job is not to lead by example. No president has ever done that.

Amazing. I’m stunned.

[DMK]

@Konssurvative1

I said this on Thursday…

We are heading down a very very risky path here. People need to go back to civility. We all need to address each other with great civility and realize our disagreements are not so strong as to lead to assassinations and bomb threats. I am getting really worried that something bad is going to happen.

I was right.

Bad things always happen, this isn’t the first and wont’ be the last incident.

People don’t do well with rapid or extreme change. People don’t do well when they believe their way of life, beliefs and morals are challenged or are going to be changed.

If you want to take a close look at the catalyst, take a close look at those who want to change the country into something it was never intended to be and who do not.

[DMK]

@Konssurvative1

The problem has always been how the ignorant react to the constant garage of the message.

Just so we are clear. Ignorant= those who do not lift a finger to verify the truth, seek the truth and only accept the message because it comes from their belief system or political side.

Ignorant, intellectually lazy. So, how do you reach the ignorant and intellectually lazy with the media the way it is today?

[Konssurvative1]

So what we have this week is a trump supporter sending mail bombs…and an anti-Trump anti Semite killing 11 jews at a synagogue. Seems like the hate comes from all sides and thus so does the message.

[Konssurvative1]

I’m just trying to reach a few people here to get them to stop relying on others messages and look for their own truth.

I deny the standard message until I am able to verify it on my own.

[AmusedObserver]

@Konssurvative1

It’s part of the reason I drive Conservatives so crazy here. I’m not accepting the message and as such I’m not afraid of the Horde coming thru Mexico, I’m not afraid of the disease that everyone was fear mongering last week. I do my own research on these things and have my own responses. I’m not mouthing what the message is. I have found what the truth is.

And the current administration is actively discouraging people from accepting anything but the snake oil they peddle on a daily basis. #fakenews

[FloridaYankee]

@DMK

@FloridaYankee

Look at where most of Trump’s branded products are made and you see a picture of the ultimate globalist. Made In America is a rarity to him when it comes to his money, while he rails against others who do the exact same thing as him. No concept of lead by example for that one.

So the antidote for you is for Trump to have his products made in America so he can lead by example? That is the cure to fear and ignorance for you?

How about the mass murders committed before Trump was president? What was the problem then?

Nope, that is a result of Ishmael dragging us down a rabbit hole with his distractions. I fell for it, guilty as charged.

[Konssurvative1]

True…and really so does the media. I just watched George Stephanopolous and the whole show was about all this tragedy being blamed on the presidents rhetoric only. There’s enough rhetoric on all sides of this thing. Right?

[DMK]

@Konssurvative1

So what we have this week is a trump supporter sending mail bombs…and an anti-Trump anti Semite killing 11 jews at a synagogue. Seems like the hate comes from all sides and thus so does the message.

What we have are two lunatics that are being tied to Trump.

Is there any ignorance or fear being used by tying both to Trump instead of the actual people who committed the acts or to mental illness?

Things like this happened before Trump was President…

[DMK]

@Konssurvative1

I’m just trying to reach a few people here to get them to stop relying on others messages and look for their own truth.

I deny the standard message until I am able to verify it on my own.

I applaud your efforts. It would be great if more people would think of politics as having to look both ways before crossing the street.

[Konssurvative1]

How is the Pittsburgh Shooter being tied to Trump? He doesn’t support him and didn’t vote for him.

[AmusedObserver]

@Call_me_Ishmael

Show me a guidebook from the right that exploits ignorance, misinformation, and fear the way the left’s “Rules for Radicals” does and we may be heading for agreement. No ifs, ands, buts, or spin… Alinsky was Clinton’s hero and mentor and the author of a book dedicated to the entity that is often called “the great deceiver” by good people.

Glenn Beck and Rush reach an audience that is orders of magnitude greater than Alinsky, they do so today (not decades ago), and on a daily basis.

Orders of magnitude.

[DMK]

@AmusedObserver

And the current administration is actively discouraging people from accepting anything but the snake oil they peddle on a daily basis. #fakenews

^ I believe this is an example of the purpose for this thread.

[Konssurvative1]

Yes. In essence think for yourself!

[AmusedObserver]

@Konssurvative1

True…and really so does the media. I just watched George Stephanopolous and the whole show was about all this tragedy being blamed on the presidents rhetoric only. There’s enough rhetoric on all sides of this thing. Right?

The media has some complicity, yes, but for the most part the more mainstream media has a historical track record of trying to present the truth. This administration? Not at all.

[DMK]

@Konssurvative1

How is the Pittsburgh Shooter being tied to Trump? He doesn’t support him and didn’t vote for him.

@Konssurvative1

True…and really so does the media. I just watched George Stephanopolous and the whole show was about all this tragedy being blamed on the presidents rhetoric only. There’s enough rhetoric on all sides of this thing. Right?

Jump over to the thread on the shooting or what you watched this morning.

[Call_me_Ishmael]

@Konssurvative1

Dude. You are the one making about chemistry. In simple none chemistry terms. The flame acts on the contents of the vial to change it into something new.

Flame (the message) acts on the vial (ignorance) to create a new outcome(hate).

It’s not about knowing chemistry, it’s about understanding a concept. But as usual, when you disagree, you belittle the messenger, because you don’t accept the message. Just like Trump. Open your mind.

The OP wanted to convey a message and give the message the legitimacy of science. So he used a picture that was intelligible to the emotionally based thinkers (who typically have no clue about science) but had some implication of a scientific truth with imagery from a chemistry lab.

Ok. Nice job. But then the OP showed tat he really did not know anything about the science he was using to get his emotional response.

If you can’t walk the walk, dont pretend.
Just say it … like you did. The message of fear acts on ignorance to create hate.
It is a truism and - as I pointed out - is the basis of much of the guidance from the left’s bible… “Rules for Radicals”.

[Konssurvative1]

I’m the OP. Don’t explain to me what I intended or didn’t intend. k? Know what and who you’re talking about. k?

[AmusedObserver]

@Call_me_Ishmael

It is a truism and - as I pointed out - is the basis of much of the guidance from the left’s bible… “Rules for Radicals”.

Cast the beam out of your own side’s eye.