WuWei
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Weak. Just because your cookie got cut the best proves his point, not yours.
Prove it.
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First, you did not even remotely address the point I was making, in particularly the rest of what I said:
A more LIBERAL system would be one in which each family were given vouchers and one in which the private market could develop schools that tailored to the interests and abilities of their customers (students). This system would expand choice for the consumer. This is just one example, are you not aware of the many things government forces people to do? Coercion is the antithesis of liberty.
Second, as someone who spent two decades in education I can assure you that rankings, test scores, etc., are not all that meaningful for most students, unless your talking about those pursuing top level STEM careers. Interestingly though when you look at these national rankings the first NJ school doesn’t come in until after #30. Not like NJ has that market cornered.
https://www.usnews.com/education/best-high-schools/national-rankings
Regarding the top 2 NJ schools on this list, guess what the dominant racial makeup of the schools are? Give up? Asian. Why don’t you look up how the rankings of all the schools in NJ in those big Democrat controlled inner cites. I would rather be in many other schools outside on NJ than in them.
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Who is being forced to use public education? In jersey we have charter schools if that’s you bag. Or if you have the cash lots of really good private schools.
Allan
Are you kidding they ranked 24,000 high schools and Dover High school which leaves a lot to be desired. Is ranked 3,341 in the nation. So if Dover is 3341, I’d hate to see 12,000th.
Jersey has really good public schools. High grad rate. Almost everyone goes to college, and then they leave jersey for greener pastures.
Allan
WuWei
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Anybody who can’t double pay.
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Have you heard of property taxes? 65-70% of that goes towards public education. Taxes at every level are a means of coercion. There are many aspects to public education that I don’t agree with, nonetheless I am forced to pay towards it. That would be how a traditional liberal would look at it.
Show me anywhere I have said that NJ schools generally and/or comparatively speaking are lousy. Now that doesn’t mean that NJ does not have lousy public schools though. The public schools in those big Democrat controlled inner cities are definitely lousy, I’m sure even worse than Dover. Regarding rankings, did you not read what I said?
as someone who spent two decades in education I can assure you that rankings, test scores, etc., are not all that meaningful for most students, unless your talking about those pursuing top level STEM careers.
Furthermore, when ranking 24,000 schools there’s not likely much difference between say 1 to 100 or higher for that matter. And not necessarily much difference between 3,000 to 12,000. Ultimately what makes good schools are the students who go there. That’s why many of the top rated schools have high Asian populations, like I said before.
We have this system with college… look where we are now
So everyone is an authoritarian?
conan
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Is that what you’re getting out of it?
Why do you assume it comes at expanse of others when they have some freedoms and opportunities. Or are you being victimized?
Has it not been corrected?
conan
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And ACLU needs victims to exist…even if they have to create em.
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conan
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These mandatory mask laws/rules must really pisses you off then.
conan
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But yet libs don’t really believe that do they? 
conan
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How convenient.
I see it as nothing more then excuse to impose your will, your ideologue and your agenda onto We The People.
Not very liberal would you say?
Webster’s defines authoritarian like this:
Interestingly wikipedia says,
There is no one consensus definition of authoritarianism, but several annual measurements are attempted, including Freedom House’s annual Freedom in the World report. Some countries such as Venezuela, among others, that are currently or historically recognized as authoritarian did not become authoritarian upon taking power or fluctuated between an authoritarian, flawed or illiberal-democratic regime. The time period reflects their time in power rather than the years they were authoritarian regimes. Some countries such as China and fascist regimes have also been characterized as totalitarian, with some periods being depicted as more authoritarian, or totalitarian, than others.
This article also lists current countries that are considered authoritarian. Some of these people won’t argue about like North Korea.
Historically authoritarian has been used as a pejorative, at least from our Western perspective, so if it clearly applies to countries like North Korea or China, doesn’t it dilute its power to use it to refer to people who support seat belt laws or temporary restrictions to restrict the spread of a disease?
It seems silly to refer to anything that isn’t anarchy as authoritarian.
historically speaking, the promise of equality was a lie…
no, the scales still are weighted for some hyphenated Americans
but comrade biden’s social justice warriors will help bring utopia
/sarcasm
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Except the right to keep and bear arms, obviously.
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WuWei
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Unfulfilled. Now it is fulfilled.
How will the story continue?
it’s not, it never can be
the story, lies and promises, will continue to drip from the tongues of every politician
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