What is it about GUN deaths?

FreeAndClear · 2022-07-06T15:42:23.289Z

BraveGear:

FreeAndClear:

Yea yea no true conservative. Blah blah

Neither was Timothy Mcveigh.

No conservatives ever.

Do a little research on ALL the mass shooters, not just your cherry-picked examples from over 25 years ago. By the way, McVeigh wasn’t a shooter, but he was a Democrat. I recommend you start with the latest, Bobby Crimo who did the shooting in Highland Park.

Start there and work your way back, let’s say 10 years. Look at them all and then come back and talk to us.

Mcveigh was an anti government “patriot”. Democrat!

Your positions are imagined at best.

I am sure i can find all the random theories about how they are all liberals going back ten years.

Given your posts in the other thread on the recent shooter it’s clear that i won’t dissuade you of your predispositions.

Camp · 2022-07-06T15:45:45.033Z

Right because the paradox is that the guns also save us from the same monsters that would kill with guns, fire, explosives autos, poison, etc…

W_and_C · 2022-07-06T15:45:56.140Z

BraveGear:

FreeAndClear:

Yea yea no true conservative. Blah blah

Neither was Timothy Mcveigh.

No conservatives ever.

Do a little research on ALL the mass shooters, not just your cherry-picked examples from over 25 years ago. By the way, McVeigh wasn’t a shooter, but he was a Democrat. I recommend you start with the latest, Bobby Crimo who did the shooting in Highland Park.

Start there and work your way back, let’s say 10 years. Look at them all and then come back and talk to us.

Is your definition of Democrat simply anyone you don’t like ?

Let me guess, 9/11 hijackers were all Democrats, eh ?

FreeAndClear · 2022-07-06T15:49:25.271Z

Your news/information sources suck

Sknyluv · 2022-07-06T17:19:06.407Z

Camp:

Right because the paradox is that the guns also save us from the same monsters that would kill with guns, fire, explosives autos, poison, etc…

“We need guns to save ourselves from guns.”

WuWei · 2022-07-06T17:21:12.904Z

Here's to feeling good all the time. :

So, about as difficult as driving 25 miles or so.

Switch.25 miles. Too far to abort or vote. Not far enough for a gun.

Camp · 2022-07-06T17:21:17.719Z

Exactly.

WuWei · 2022-07-06T17:21:43.273Z

Sknyluv:

Camp:

Right because the paradox is that the guns also save us from the same monsters that would kill with guns, fire, explosives autos, poison, etc…

“We need guns to save ourselves from guns.”

From maniacs in a failed state.

Camp · 2022-07-06T17:25:09.699Z

I would say lawless over failed. Both are correct.

The authoritarians haven’t failed it to the full state of misery just yet.

W_and_C · 2022-07-06T17:31:14.013Z

WuWei:

Here's to feeling good all the time. :

So, about as difficult as driving 25 miles or so.

Switch.25 miles. Too far to abort or vote. Not far enough for a gun.

Not too far to do anything really for most people.

Camp · 2022-07-07T12:50:58.197Z

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WuWei · 2022-07-07T14:01:45.426Z

Not what I was told.

Guvnah · 2022-07-07T15:29:55.362Z

FreeAndClear:

it is however just one of many many many factors.

This is a key statement.

In these gun discussions, people tend to get tunnel vision, either blaming or dismissing a specific factor.

Guvnah · 2022-07-07T15:32:13.404Z

FreeAndClear:

Guns are in fact just a tool. I think what needs to be said is that guns are a tool that make it easier to target things. That doesn’t mean they should face stiffer regulation nor does it mean that the 2nd should be infringed but it needs to be admitted.

Absolutely, it needs to be admitted.

It’s truth.

The question to address, though, is why someone wants to target people.