What happened to the J6 tape release?

[Jezcoe]

@Camp

Nobody cares about your fee fees.

I know you don’t

But it still alarms me that someone who tried to overturn the election that he knew that he had lost still gets tons of support.

It should alarm everyone who loves this country.

[Jezcoe]

@DougBH

@Jezcoe

Nah… it is just the disappointment that I have found in my fellow countrymen who excuse or in the least… ignore the actions of a man that they know to be UnAmerican in trying to continue being in power when he knew that he had lost.

For the primary, I find his reaction to the loss in 2020 to be disturbing. For the general election, I find the lack of control of the border, continuing to spend money even as we enter a period of inflation, and the weaponization of the DOJ to way outweigh what Trump did in 2020.

The thing is… it was just a little more than a “reaction”

It was a plan to overturn the election when he knew that he had lost.

That should be disqualifying no matter what.

[DougBH]

@tnt

@Camp

Trump didn’t do anything more than challenge a very circumspect series of election rule revisions.

Lol.

Sure he did!

He arranged for a fake slate of electors.[/quote]
Or alternate electors if the courts had agreed. They didn’t.

He pressured election officials in GA to perpetrate fraud

No he didn’t. He asked the election official to search for the additional votes which Trump believed were out there.

He pressured his VP to ignore his constitutional duty.

He asked Pence to send back electoral votes from states to have those states reconsider their legitimacy. Pence did not agree that was appropriate under the circumstances and rejected the idea.

[quote]He assembled a crowd to pressure his VP to ignore his duty.

Trump called for a protest, including a protest regardin Pence’s actions. In most cases, Democrats support such protests as protected by the first amendment.

[tnt]

@DougBH

He made his case to Governors, judges and to Congress. They said no.
That is not the power of the Presidency. The power of the Presidency would have been to refuse to leave and order the military in. That is what an insurrection would have looked like.

Why do you think he had a rally after all that? And why did he tweet that Pence could do the right thing? And why do you think he wanted to go to the capital? Ans why do you think he was arranging for a slate of fake electors to be delivered to Pence? and why do you think he waited hours before telling people chanting ‘hang mike pence’ that he loved them, and to go home?

[tnt]

@DougBH

. The last step is the certification by Congress.

A step that he arranged interference for while pressuring Pence himself and with his crowd to ignore his duty.

[Jezcoe]

@tnt

@DougBH

. The last step is the certification by Congress.

A step that he arranged interference for while pressuring Pence himself and with his crowd to ignore his duty.

A step that he undertook knowing that he had lost.

[DougBH]

@Jezcoe

@DougBH

@Jezcoe

Nah… it is just the disappointment that I have found in my fellow countrymen who excuse or in the least… ignore the actions of a man that they know to be UnAmerican in trying to continue being in power when he knew that he had lost.

For the primary, I find his reaction to the loss in 2020 to be disturbing. For the general election, I find the lack of control of the border, continuing to spend money even as we enter a period of inflation, and the weaponization of the DOJ to way outweigh what Trump did in 2020.

The thing is… it was just a little more than a “reaction”

It was a plan to overturn the election when he knew that he had lost.

That should be disqualifying no matter what.

Nope. Just used the political and judicial protest to contest the reported results…just like Gore.

[tnt]

@DougBH

This has never been proven. In fact, I suspect the opposite is true. Isn’t he supposed to be the big narcissist? If other people believe he didn’t lose, do you expect him to easily accept that he did?

So your argument is, trump, as president, didn’t accept the reality of the election despite the courts, his advisors and staff telling it to him, therefore, he was allowed to assemble a crowd, put a target on Pence, and try to get fake electors sent to the capital?

Weird argument.

[Jezcoe]

@DougBH

@Jezcoe

@DougBH

@Jezcoe

Nah… it is just the disappointment that I have found in my fellow countrymen who excuse or in the least… ignore the actions of a man that they know to be UnAmerican in trying to continue being in power when he knew that he had lost.

For the primary, I find his reaction to the loss in 2020 to be disturbing. For the general election, I find the lack of control of the border, continuing to spend money even as we enter a period of inflation, and the weaponization of the DOJ to way outweigh what Trump did in 2020.

The thing is… it was just a little more than a “reaction”

It was a plan to overturn the election when he knew that he had lost.

That should be disqualifying no matter what.

Nope. Just used the political and judicial protest to contest the reported results…just like Gore.

Gore used all legal avenues and when that was over he conceded.

Trump exhausted all legal avenues and knowing that he did lose the election still tried to overturn the result by using parliamentary ■■■■■■■ and fake elector ballots that his team flew across the country.

You see the difference in the two things… right?

[DougBH]

Had nothing to do with his being President. Anyone can protest for anything, whether you or I agree with them or not.

[tnt]

@Guvnah

End of discussion.

(And hint: YOU are one of the last ones on this board I’m interested in hashing out anything with.)

Lol. Then put me on ignore. Or don’t respond.

Instead you parse out the parts that you are incapable of honestly answering, because honesty isn’t your thing.

[DougBH]

Trump used the judicial and the political process, which is legitimate. They, in my opinion, told him to pound sand…legitimately.
Then he left the white house…with a bunch of documents but thats another story.

[Jezcoe]

@DougBH

Trump used the judicial and the political process, which is legitimate. They, in my opinion, told him to pound sand…legitimately.
Then he left the white house…with a bunch of documents but thats another story.

Wow… skipped a whole major step in what happened.

That is how one copes and eases the cognitive dissonance.

It makes sense now.

[LucyLou]

@Guvnah

@Jezcoe

When a President uses the power of the office in an attempt to overturn the result of the election that he knew that he had lost… what should we call that?

When a president actually does that, come back to me.

I’m not going to play in what-if games of unhinged lib narratives. You are not the jury that determines it.

What do we call it when he tries with all his might, sits back and watches the destruction on his TV, and is only foiled because enough people (Pence, Pelosi, McConnell) held their ground and refused to submit?

Thanks! I’ll call that insurrection and fraud from a deranged and perverted anti American piece of trash who deserves to be in prison.

Lock Him Up!

(It’s getting closer…)

[LucyLou]

@tnt

@DougBH

He made his case to Governors, judges and to Congress. They said no.
That is not the power of the Presidency. The power of the Presidency would have been to refuse to leave and order the military in. That is what an insurrection would have looked like.

Why do you think he had a rally after all that? And why did he tweet that Pence could do the right thing? And why do you think he wanted to go to the capital? Ans why do you think he was arranging for a slate of fake electors to be delivered to Pence? and why do you think he waited hours before telling people chanting ‘hang mike pence’ that he loved them, and to go home?

My favorite part is Ron Jon texting Pence that morning to tell him he had the late arriving fake fraudulent electoral documents and Pence told him to go ■■■■ himself because he wanted no part of the fraud.

Pence was a hero that day.

[DougBH]

Not Theodore White. This was a post to a thread in a political forum, not a documentary.

[Guvnah]

@tnt

Lol. Then put me on ignore. Or don’t respond.

No. I’ll just keep reminding you of your place on my scale of contemptible content.

@tnt

because honesty isn’t your thing.

The irony, coming from you.

[Guvnah]

@LucyLou

What do we call it when he tries with all his might, sits back and watches the destruction on his TV, and is only foiled because enough people (Pence, Pelosi, McConnell) held their ground and refused to submit?

Your fever dream spin.

Hope that helps!

[tnt]

@DougBH

“Can you believe I lost to this effing guy?”

Apparently he didn’t. Or maybe he did. Or maybe he sometimes did and other times didn’t. I can’t get in peoples heads like you guys can.

What difference does that make? His actions aren’t excused by ignorance.

Your argument seems to be, he ignored reality and the words of officials, therefore it’s OK.

[tnt]

@Guvnah

@tnt

Lol. Then put me on ignore. Or don’t respond.

No. I’ll just keep reminding you of your place on my scale of contemptible content.

It’s telling that you think that is your role here.

@Guvnah

@tnt

because honesty isn’t your thing.

The irony, coming from you.

We all can read the posts you parse. We all can see what you ignore. We all know why.